Compass Updates - Saga Continues
#6191
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Originally Posted by 2dubs
100% incorrect. Mainline pilots had the chance to fly regional jets but chose to have it contracted out. Regional Airlines, as we know them today, exist at blessing of Mainline Pilots.
#6192
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While we're on this: we should be able to add a trip on a vacation day during SAP, right? I tried and it was denied because the "time range is occupied by other duties." (ie vacation)
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#6193
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As far as I know, you get vacation pay plus whatever you pick up. (Min daily credit still applies.)
While we're on this: we should be able to add a trip on a vacation day during SAP, right? I tried and it was denied because the "time range is occupied by other duties." (ie vacation)
While we're on this: we should be able to add a trip on a vacation day during SAP, right? I tried and it was denied because the "time range is occupied by other duties." (ie vacation)
#6194
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Another great feature of IOCC! Getting trades and pickups auto rejected for incorrect reasons. Then you email trip trades, you get a reply saying the pairing is no longer available in open-time. By the time they look at it someone else has already taken it. It happens to me just about every month.
Ya but this is nothing new. This has been the case ever since we went live with this system back in the beginning of the year.
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#6195
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Yep! It's just frustrating that it's 6 months later and the company still doesn't seem to be doing anything to fix the problem.
#6196
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Sure as regional pilots we don't get a vote on it now, but guess what as people here say we're going to be there in the next few years, the ones voting at our career carriers in the future. So saying that another regional is stealing flying from another regional is only half true. At the end of the day every regional is doing the work that should be at mainline.
We are going to be the pilots that determine the future of the regionals and scope. Management at the legacy carriers still want to keep costs down
Even with rising compensation at the regionals it's still cheaper than a Captain at $160/ hour or an FO at $86/ hour.
#6197
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Regarding the 4hr min per day credit: if i were to pick up just two legs from a trip, ie lax-sfo, overnight, then back to lax next day and done, would i get 8 hours of credit if those legs were poached from the middle of a multi-day trip in open time? Ie trip wasnt built that way but I picked up only those two legs..
#6198
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Regarding the 4hr min per day credit: if i were to pick up just two legs from a trip, ie lax-sfo, overnight, then back to lax next day and done, would i get 8 hours of credit if those legs were poached from the middle of a multi-day trip in open time? Ie trip wasnt built that way but I picked up only those two legs..
#6199
Just because mainline pilots blessed it does not make it inaccurate. The DC9 has basically the same MGTOW, and wingspan as the CRJ900 and the AA E175s (but a shorter range due to straight turbojet engines). Are you telling me that you'd be ok with Compass or any other regional flying the DC9? Or 737-100, or 717? Because flying the 175 is pretty much that. Even in today's pilot shortage Scott Kirby thinks he can convince United pilots to relax scope with the Cseries. And in AA's last negotiations there was talk of scope relaxation.
Sure as regional pilots we don't get a vote on it now, but guess what as people here say we're going to be there in the next few years, the ones voting at our career carriers in the future. So saying that another regional is stealing flying from another regional is only half true. At the end of the day every regional is doing the work that should be at mainline.
We are going to be the pilots that determine the future of the regionals and scope. Management at the legacy carriers still want to keep costs down
Even with rising compensation at the regionals it's still cheaper than a Captain at $160/ hour or an FO at $86/ hour.
Sure as regional pilots we don't get a vote on it now, but guess what as people here say we're going to be there in the next few years, the ones voting at our career carriers in the future. So saying that another regional is stealing flying from another regional is only half true. At the end of the day every regional is doing the work that should be at mainline.
We are going to be the pilots that determine the future of the regionals and scope. Management at the legacy carriers still want to keep costs down
Even with rising compensation at the regionals it's still cheaper than a Captain at $160/ hour or an FO at $86/ hour.
#6200
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Regarding the 4hr min per day credit: if i were to pick up just two legs from a trip, ie lax-sfo, overnight, then back to lax next day and done, would i get 8 hours of credit if those legs were poached from the middle of a multi-day trip in open time? Ie trip wasnt built that way but I picked up only those two legs..
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