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Old 10-04-2017 | 07:34 PM
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I agree with Poor Flyer,

#1, they are offering it for pretty much the whole of next year. What's up with that? You would think maybe extend the offer through the winter and into the spring if there is some hiring concern and then re-evaluate, but all the way to November 2018 now? This seems to me to reflect their lack of confidence that we will be properly staffed next year at all. It is almost like they are planning on not properly staffing the airline by choosing ahead of time what they are NOT willing to do (contractual retention bonuses, pay hikes for everyone, work rules, I dunno... raise moral by following the contract and correcting long-standing grievances, anything..).

#2, I think we all know what they are willing to do when they back themselves into a crew planning corner-- you get voluntold to give your vacation up that you earned and were awarded from the year before-- not cool.

#3, asking the question tomorrow has a degree of pointlessness to it because you know they are not going to be like "yeah we may pull vacation again" -- they are going to say what they said last time "we are not there yet, so next question" which was hilarious since they seemed to have gotten there like a week later when they pulled the vacation.

#4, I don't know... I'm just on a roll here with these numbers.... rabble rabble rabble

Bottom line, some of us got majorly burned and the rest of us watched with disgust. So now that we are about to bid for next year, I think we all just want to have some confidence that we can book those cruises, vacation homes, or plan that trip to the Epcot Center (joke) without any staffing drama.
Old 10-04-2017 | 08:27 PM
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The 2018 vacation memo is a voluntary critical pay buy back. Not sure why some people here are treating it like it's already being taken from them. If THAT memo comes, then get mad. But for now, don't make it into something more negative than it is.

$20 to anyone who asks on the call about September/October class sizes or 2018 SEA crew base sizes. I'll be flying
Because if I’m not mistaken ( from my buddy that got screwed by this). If you gave it back it was critical pay. His was involuntarily taken and nothing says anything about higher pay. Soooooo, he got screwed. That’s the issue. Company( and company men) don’t give a **** that’s the issue.
Old 10-04-2017 | 09:25 PM
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As an aside, anyone notice the announcement in Comply today that they’re hiring someone for Crew Planning? I don’t know how Paul does it all by himself, but having another person in there wouldn’t be a bad thing either.
Old 10-04-2017 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WingedCelt
As an aside, anyone notice the announcement in Comply today that they’re hiring someone for Crew Planning? I don’t know how Paul does it all by himself, but having another person in there wouldn’t be a bad thing either.
Is the position an additional person or a replacement?
Old 10-04-2017 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Is the position an additional person or a replacement?
I’d have to go back and look, not sure.
Old 10-05-2017 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Is the position an additional person or a replacement?


Replacement.


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Old 10-05-2017 | 07:44 AM
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So one crew disrespects MSAs, now nobody can shoot night-visuals into SJC... Nice.

Sounds like an IFR course is needed.
Old 10-05-2017 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
So one crew disrespects MSAs, now nobody can shoot night-visuals into SJC... Nice.

Sounds like an IFR course is needed.
Some of the guys here love to attempt to bomb down to the faf alt when cleared for the visual. Doesn't matter if we're 2 miles from faf or 15. I can't tell you how many times I've had to say to the other guy, hey how about I load the whole approach and we comply with the fixes leading up to the faf alt.
Old 10-05-2017 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Some of the guys here love to attempt to bomb down to the faf alt when cleared for the visual. Doesn't matter if we're 2 miles from faf or 15. I can't tell you how many times I've had to say to the other guy, hey how about I load the whole approach and we comply with the fixes leading up to the faf alt.
That's poor habit transfer learned in the sims. Nothing to hit on the 12R ILS in MSP. Doesn't work out as well when there's a hill in between you and the FAF. I've had to stop FOs before on multiple occasions too.
Old 10-05-2017 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightman
That's poor habit transfer learned in the sims. Nothing to hit on the 12R ILS in MSP. Doesn't work out as well when there's a hill in between you and the FAF. I've had to stop FOs before on multiple occasions too.
I agree that the sims are to blame. I also out some blame on the LCAs for not hammering it in to their head to not do that. I had a DL CA on the js that said it's a hot topic for them and they've had some "interesting" safety reports regarding that issue that I don't want to talk about publicly. So it's not just us that have issues.
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