Aspen first time
02-28-2017 | 12:37 PM
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The little Tex-Mex restaurant in Atlantic aint half-bad for a quick turn snack. Town is five minutes away. I've stayed st Rifle, not many hotels there, bug Glenwood Springs is a 45 minute drive, 2,000' lower if you can't sleep at 8,000' and less snooty.
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02-28-2017 | 01:47 PM
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I've been into ASE 300+ times in the CRJ-700.
If you've never been, go VFR. Be fully configured abeam Red Table or configure while passing DBL if flying over it. Try to do a constant angle descent as best you can. Be prepared for a 10 knot TW landing on 15. If you have to reject the landing after the missed approach point climb at v2, wait until .7 DME south of the airport then LEFT turn to get on the loc bc. The runway is narrower than standard and uphill, so the illusion is that you are high. Don't go at night if you've never been. Watch for windsear on short final.
On departure stay over the low terrain. 3.7DME left 270. If you lose an engine do not return to Aspen.
Don't be afraid to say no. Aspen is NOT a 365 day a year airport. If you have microsoft flight sim or something similar, practice flying around there. Play around with google earth if you don't have the game.
If you've never been, go VFR. Be fully configured abeam Red Table or configure while passing DBL if flying over it. Try to do a constant angle descent as best you can. Be prepared for a 10 knot TW landing on 15. If you have to reject the landing after the missed approach point climb at v2, wait until .7 DME south of the airport then LEFT turn to get on the loc bc. The runway is narrower than standard and uphill, so the illusion is that you are high. Don't go at night if you've never been. Watch for windsear on short final.
On departure stay over the low terrain. 3.7DME left 270. If you lose an engine do not return to Aspen.
Don't be afraid to say no. Aspen is NOT a 365 day a year airport. If you have microsoft flight sim or something similar, practice flying around there. Play around with google earth if you don't have the game.
I'm curious about your missed approach procedure after the MAP. I've flown into Aspen many times and always wondered what was the best course of action for a missed in such a situation. I asked pilots at my company and have heard a wide range of responses. Is this a specific procedure for your company or something you practiced in the sim / real world?
I echo everyone's comments about going into ASE. Fully configured by DBL and VFR only for your first time. The other operators I worked for had minimums that were so high you pretty much had to see the airport by DBL. I was a little shocked to read the mountainous airport minimums for my current company which just says refer to minimums on approach plate. I'm not cool with that.
Going missed after the MAP seems like the most disconcerting situation.
02-28-2017 | 03:52 PM
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Great advice here. Also, when departing 33 on the LINDZ, turn IMMEDIATELY to heading 343. As in, positive rate, gear up, turn. I'm absolutely amazed at how often the non-local Corporate and Charter guys screw that up, and scare the crap out of inbound traffic to 15.
02-28-2017 | 04:09 PM
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I'm curious about your missed approach procedure after the MAP. I've flown into Aspen many times and always wondered what was the best course of action for a missed in such a situation. I asked pilots at my company and have heard a wide range of responses. Is this a specific procedure for your company or something you practiced in the sim / real world?
I echo everyone's comments about going into ASE. Fully configured by DBL and VFR only for your first time. The other operators I worked for had minimums that were so high you pretty much had to see the airport by DBL. I was a little shocked to read the mountainous airport minimums for my current company which just says refer to minimums on approach plate. I'm not cool with that.
Going missed after the MAP seems like the most disconcerting situation.
I echo everyone's comments about going into ASE. Fully configured by DBL and VFR only for your first time. The other operators I worked for had minimums that were so high you pretty much had to see the airport by DBL. I was a little shocked to read the mountainous airport minimums for my current company which just says refer to minimums on approach plate. I'm not cool with that.
Going missed after the MAP seems like the most disconcerting situation.
02-28-2017 | 05:39 PM
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For a missed from low altitudes, I have practiced a few scenarios of utilizing the area west of the runway where the firehouse is to off set and making a V2/Vapp climb followed by a 30+ degree banked turn out to the left back over the airport and city.
Guys have goofed up to Roaring Fork Visual many times too! They clear you for the visual at 16,000ft give or take and abeam the airport to the east. Guys will begin the descent but turn in for the airport way to early and the terrain won't let you down fast enough.
If clears for the visual....take it wide out into the valley north of the field and take your time. Don't rush it.
Guys have goofed up to Roaring Fork Visual many times too! They clear you for the visual at 16,000ft give or take and abeam the airport to the east. Guys will begin the descent but turn in for the airport way to early and the terrain won't let you down fast enough.
If clears for the visual....take it wide out into the valley north of the field and take your time. Don't rush it.
02-28-2017 | 07:36 PM
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03-01-2017 | 09:51 AM
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