Training Contracts
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Training Contracts
In the current hiring environment, are training contracts in place at some corporate outfits? I.e., if we type you, you will need to stay here for xx years or we will recoup training costs.
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In short? Yes. Contract length is usually dictated by the cost of the type. Its business, especially under the current market conditions.
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Training contracts are not necessary if you create an environment that allows a good quality of life and encourages employees to stay. If a prospective employer asked me to sign one, I would assume it was because they have a turnover problem. It's not 1995 anymore.
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Some might ask you to sign what I call a "back-door" training contract, AKA, a non-compete....often because some states, like NH, have laws that nullify training contracts, or make them hard or difficult to enforce.
Basically states if you leave, you cannot fly the same aircraft type without repaying the training cost and or work for another company flying the same equipment in a set geographic region.
Phraseology can vary, but the intent is to make hard to take a job, get trained, then use the training and experience you just received to get a better paying job in the same area.
Do ask before you accept a job.
Basically states if you leave, you cannot fly the same aircraft type without repaying the training cost and or work for another company flying the same equipment in a set geographic region.
Phraseology can vary, but the intent is to make hard to take a job, get trained, then use the training and experience you just received to get a better paying job in the same area.
Do ask before you accept a job.
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To the OP, much depends on aircraft category/class. If you care to expound a little more about your situation we can give you more detail.
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You are correct. When some type ratings are fast approaching $100K, a business has the protect their investment and that's not just a training contract. It's QOL, pay (we pay more than NBAA max), benefits, etc. When we had G550's we had a few guys/gals on a two-year training contract pro-rated daily. When we moved to 650's, it was easy to upgrade them and we paid. We must be doing something right because we haven't had a turnover in 4 years. For good or for bad training contracts are becoming a fact of life, at least according to my NBAA friends.
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I take that back. I would sign a training contract as long as it was a two way street. If I have to pay back the value of training, then my employer has to guarantee my employment for the duration of the contract. If they terminate me for any reason then they owe me pay and benefits for the duration of the contract. If I am going to be on a financial hook, then they are too.
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I take that back. I would sign a training contract as long as it was a two way street. If I have to pay back the value of training, then my employer has to guarantee my employment for the duration of the contract. If they terminate me for any reason then they owe me pay and benefits for the duration of the contract. If I am going to be on a financial hook, then they are too.
Training contracts = indentured servitude. Pay people well, treat people well and they will stay.
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