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Old 02-26-2007, 02:36 AM
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The Diamond D-Jet mockup came to my area recently and they let people sit in it. I thought the cockpit was flimsy. Plastic knobs, fake wood, loose panels. It felt like an entry-level economy car in there. I wondered how it would hold up under hard commercial use. Maybe the mockup wasn't the actual deal and they have better materials in the real aircraft. If not, I doubt it will do very well against the Cessna, Eclipse, and Embraer models.

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Old 02-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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Disappointing news today from AvWeb. Said Eclipse and Avidyne are parting ways. Least the first models are taken care of, but makes you wonder what the hell is going on.
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Disappointing news today from AvWeb. Said Eclipse and Avidyne are parting ways. Least the first models are taken care of, but makes you wonder what the hell is going on.
First it was the engines, now the avionics.
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Originally Posted by ryane946 View Post
Talked with my friend today who also worked at Adam aircraft with me, and he said the A-700 is certified up to FL410.

As for orders, I saw an article a few days ago that said Eclipse already has 2,350 orders for their VLJ, which costs $1.3 million dollars.
The A700 is far from being certified and the company is going to be experiencing upcoming lay-offs. From what I hear the A500 is being discontinued as well.

Eclipse has it's issues but a much more viable product and much stronger company. Plus the aircraft is totally different than any other VLJ on the market, which is what makes it unique, not to mention the extremely low operation costs and acquisition costs. Adam A700 is $2.2 million without options or CPI-W, Eclipse is $1.52 without options or CPI-W, Mustang is $2.6 million with no options or CPI-W and the Phenom 100 is $3.0mil. The D-Jet only has one engine so who wants that?

Eclipse has close to 2,600 order with about 3/4 of those firm, the rest options.

Time will tell, they are really all good jets!
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver View Post
The Diamond D-Jet mockup came to my area recently and they let people sit in it. I thought the cockpit was flimsy. Plastic knobs, fake wood, loose panels. It felt like an entry-level economy car in there. I wondered how it would hold up under hard commercial use. Maybe the mockup wasn't the actual deal and they have better materials in the real aircraft. If not, I doubt it will do very well against the Cessna, Eclipse, and Embraer models.
It's a mockup my friend, they are all like that. Wait for the real thing...and then wait for more real things...and then see how it's being refined and "polished." The D-Jet is $1.38mil five seats (2-3 in back), single engine, only 315kts and FL250. The nearest competitor is Eclipse at $1.52mil, two engines, 370kts, FL410, and a helluva lot more bang for your buck it seems.
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