Lear crash in SC
09-23-2008 | 08:07 AM
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Information regarding the crew;
This is written by a friend of Sarah's;
I personally know the pilot, Sarah, and I am proud to say I tried to mentor her. VERY SHARP lady. Stanford graduate, fluent Spanish. She temporarily gave up her budding multi-engine pilot (& aerobatics instructor) career to follow her now ex-husband to a TSA job in the Northeast. With an FAA dispatcher's license in her pocket, she took a job with Bombardier Canadair/Learjet Flight Operations Dispatch in BDL. That's where I met her and she was GOOD at the job. However, her heart was in the cockpit, and watching pilots come and go daily made the longing to get back to her own pilot career even stronger. Bombardier's politics and changes forced her to make a choice and she took the chance we all take as pilots. She was called for an interpreter job for a Citation operator to go to South America. It was her big break and her first job in a jet. She took out a loan and paid for the Citation type rating when she got back. I know she spent at least 2 years flying Citations, and was offered a chief pilot position, but turned it down. About the same time one of my customers offered her a LR60 type rating to take a contract in Moscow on a 30 day rotation. She accepted it, and went to LR60 initial. The rotation job fizzled before she got to Moscow--due to internal problems within the management company and the Russian company. She then picked up a Citation VII type with Global Executive, and I believe she was flying SIC on a GIV in addtion to her type ratings. I last spoke to her in the May 2008 time frame. She was excited, things were going well, and the world was hers for the taking. She clearly no longer needed mentoring. HOW FAST THINGS CAN CHANGE.
For friends and associates of Jim Bland Co-pilot,
Memorial Service for Jim Bland
Saturday September 27, 2008 - 2 PM
Palomar Airport
Magellan Aviation
Hangar H-9
2006 Palomar Airport Road
Carlsbad, Ca.
As a US Customs Special Agent/Pilot, Jim flew missions in defense of the United States of America for 20 years.
This is written by a friend of Sarah's;
I personally know the pilot, Sarah, and I am proud to say I tried to mentor her. VERY SHARP lady. Stanford graduate, fluent Spanish. She temporarily gave up her budding multi-engine pilot (& aerobatics instructor) career to follow her now ex-husband to a TSA job in the Northeast. With an FAA dispatcher's license in her pocket, she took a job with Bombardier Canadair/Learjet Flight Operations Dispatch in BDL. That's where I met her and she was GOOD at the job. However, her heart was in the cockpit, and watching pilots come and go daily made the longing to get back to her own pilot career even stronger. Bombardier's politics and changes forced her to make a choice and she took the chance we all take as pilots. She was called for an interpreter job for a Citation operator to go to South America. It was her big break and her first job in a jet. She took out a loan and paid for the Citation type rating when she got back. I know she spent at least 2 years flying Citations, and was offered a chief pilot position, but turned it down. About the same time one of my customers offered her a LR60 type rating to take a contract in Moscow on a 30 day rotation. She accepted it, and went to LR60 initial. The rotation job fizzled before she got to Moscow--due to internal problems within the management company and the Russian company. She then picked up a Citation VII type with Global Executive, and I believe she was flying SIC on a GIV in addtion to her type ratings. I last spoke to her in the May 2008 time frame. She was excited, things were going well, and the world was hers for the taking. She clearly no longer needed mentoring. HOW FAST THINGS CAN CHANGE.
For friends and associates of Jim Bland Co-pilot,
Memorial Service for Jim Bland
Saturday September 27, 2008 - 2 PM
Palomar Airport
Magellan Aviation
Hangar H-9
2006 Palomar Airport Road
Carlsbad, Ca.
As a US Customs Special Agent/Pilot, Jim flew missions in defense of the United States of America for 20 years.
Thank you for sharing that.
09-23-2008 | 06:15 PM
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Sarah Lemmon Memorial Service
Sarah Hagar Lemmon
Though Sarah no longer walks with us . . . she will forever soar in our hearts . . .
Please make memorials in honor of Sarah Hagar Lemmon to Seattle Children's Hospital - Ann Carlson Guild Endowment, Children's Hospital Foundation/ GA Mail stop S-200, P.O. Box 50020, Seattle, WA 98145.
Memorial services will be held Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 1 PM at the Corporate Air center located at the Skagit Regional Airport, 15452 Airport Drive, Burlington, Washington.
Arrangements are under the care of Hawthorne Funeral Home, 1825 E. College Way, Mount Vernon.
Click Here for complete Obituary and Condolence Book
Though Sarah no longer walks with us . . . she will forever soar in our hearts . . .
Please make memorials in honor of Sarah Hagar Lemmon to Seattle Children's Hospital - Ann Carlson Guild Endowment, Children's Hospital Foundation/ GA Mail stop S-200, P.O. Box 50020, Seattle, WA 98145.
Memorial services will be held Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 1 PM at the Corporate Air center located at the Skagit Regional Airport, 15452 Airport Drive, Burlington, Washington.
Arrangements are under the care of Hawthorne Funeral Home, 1825 E. College Way, Mount Vernon.
Click Here for complete Obituary and Condolence Book
09-23-2008 | 07:20 PM
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From: USAF
09-23-2008 | 08:12 PM
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That's what I was thinking too. I was expecting to see a CAE-TEB flight plan with a actual "departure" time but a blank "arrival" time. I had to re-read it again to see that I was actually looking at the reverse of that route, from TEB-CAE and that the times were correct.
So then I saw the flight information from the day before, on the 18th. Very interesting that TEB seems to have been filed for both the departure and arrival airports. The filed route seems unusual as well. Out of TEB, on a Victor airway, into central Conneticut and then their intentions were????
So then I saw the flight information from the day before, on the 18th. Very interesting that TEB seems to have been filed for both the departure and arrival airports. The filed route seems unusual as well. Out of TEB, on a Victor airway, into central Conneticut and then their intentions were????
09-24-2008 | 08:09 AM
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The MX flight out of TEB was reportedly due to a Bleed Air issue, also note a diverted flight 6 days prior to arrival at TEB.
Photos show the wreckage with the TR's fully stowed.
There is an unresolved Lear 60 accident FAA Preliminary N9CU were the TR's were locked out.
Photos show the wreckage with the TR's fully stowed.
There is an unresolved Lear 60 accident FAA Preliminary N9CU were the TR's were locked out.
09-28-2008 | 08:53 PM
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lear 60 crash
The brakes on the 60 are the same as the 31 but yet the 60 is about 5000lbs more. Your blow a tire and abort the brakes will fry fast on the side that the tire was blown and now you only have 2 of your 4 brakes working, my guess is that they blew a tire at very high speed aborted and cooked the brakes (sparks reported) and went off the end.
09-28-2008 | 08:57 PM
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The lear 60 has the same brakes as the lear 31 but is 5000lbs more. My guess is that they aborted at high speeds due to the blown tire and cooked the small brake on the side of the blown tire, (sparkes reported) now you only have 2 out of the 4 brakes and a loaded airplane heavy, they were trying to make it to CA.
09-29-2008 | 07:39 AM
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In addition to being heavy and high speed, they might have been ginger on good side to keep from running off the side of the runway due to differential braking. This would have increased the distance needed to stop as well. Please don't judge the crew as they did everything they possibly could to get that jet stopped. Godspeed to the crew and pax...
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