Falcon 7X
08-23-2010 | 07:54 AM
#111
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Quiet Spike
Nowhere did I use the word "safer", I used "advantage". With over 4,000 hours in four-engine planes and 2,500 in international two-engine. bizjets, I believe safety isn't the issue, but capability with an engine shutdown is. Admittedly, not a large issue, but could be a telling one for trans-polar, trans-Siberian or long Pacific flights.
For example, PANC -UUWW, would you really want to put your plane and pax into BGTL after a engine loss or fly for 4 hours on one to northern Norway. The other option is a flight at lower latitudes and much greater distance and time
GF
Nowhere did I use the word "safer", I used "advantage". With over 4,000 hours in four-engine planes and 2,500 in international two-engine. bizjets, I believe safety isn't the issue, but capability with an engine shutdown is. Admittedly, not a large issue, but could be a telling one for trans-polar, trans-Siberian or long Pacific flights.
For example, PANC -UUWW, would you really want to put your plane and pax into BGTL after a engine loss or fly for 4 hours on one to northern Norway. The other option is a flight at lower latitudes and much greater distance and time
GF
08-24-2010 | 06:37 AM
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Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
08-24-2010 | 02:24 PM
#113
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From: Sofa Stress Tester
Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
08-24-2010 | 02:56 PM
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Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
You have never heard G5 pilots complain about the APU? the brakes? screens going blank?
Maybe ask the next one your hear flying overhead?
08-25-2010 | 06:41 AM
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No need to get all worked up.
Back to your Falcon vs Gulfstream battle...
08-27-2010 | 04:59 AM
#116
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From: G5 Captain
Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
09-28-2010 | 09:44 AM
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From: Captian, G450, G550 (Ret.)
Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.
Carry on...
I cannot speak for the Gulfstreams (never flown them), but I can for the 7X. I have done my fair share of "re-init"s (power down, wait 5 min, power up) to clear fault messages and it is frustrating, but not as often as I used to. Our dispatch rate is about 98% since the latest software upgrade. In 18 months I have only seen one mechanical issue. The rest have been avionics related.
The 7X is growing on me. It may even nudge past my favorite airplane to fly, the F2000Easy.
10-08-2010 | 06:29 AM
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From: Captian, G450, G550 (Ret.)
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