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Old 11-16-2010 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by UCLAbruins
(Boiler makes a good point)

Ashcroft, If you're thinking long-range bizjet, that is going to be tough to get.. Global, G-V and Large Falcon operators want a type rating, hours in type and int'l experience,
Most departments I am familiar with do not care about you having a type rating.....but yes they want some experience and often want Intl PIC experience...and no - Canada and the islands don't count. lol.

We are looking to add a Falcon pilot soon, and could care less if the person is rated.
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Old 11-23-2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
We are looking to add a Falcon pilot soon, and could care less if the person is rated.
Just curious what part of the country are you looking in?
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Old 11-23-2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
Most departments I am familiar with do not care about you having a type rating.....but yes they want some experience and often want Intl PIC experience...and no - Canada and the islands don't count. lol.

We are looking to add a Falcon pilot soon, and could care less if the person is rated.
OH NowCorporate! NOW?!

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Old 11-23-2010 | 12:11 PM
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From an ex-airline guy who was able to escape 121 and get a good corporate job, good luck. If you can find a good gig you will be much happier. Just try to meet a lot of people and put your name out there. Make sure everyone understands you're willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. A lot of airline guys have the attitude of not wanting to load bags, get ice, papers, etc.... much more to corporate flying than flying the airplane especially on overseas trips.
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Old 11-24-2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
Most departments I am familiar with do not care about you having a type rating......
Well....not so much. If someone fits the profile and has a type rating, why would someone consider anyone else??? You save a LOT on initial training costs. To say managers don't care about such a leg-up is not what I have experienced.

I work for a Fortune 50 company and we have been searching for some time for someone who has a type, is local and is in the 30-40ish range (for future retirement considerations). If you add in the more important factor....will this person fit into our corporate culture....so far does not exist.

I think what you, NowCorp.... are saying is that at some point the those who hire in the Corporate sector will rethink what the profile is based on what is available . This is where we are at.

Currently, we are considering hiring someone who we can grow as our own. Someone who is a bit "wet under the ears" but talented and fits our profile.

If we could get this person with a type (in our types)....they are a shoe-in

Just sayin'
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Old 11-24-2010 | 01:13 PM
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Thanks for the advice Dude. I went out to the local fbo to see if they need anybody to work the ramp, fuel planes, or whatever so that I can start getting my name out there. That is the best route I can come up with for now.
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Old 11-24-2010 | 01:55 PM
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Of course a company would prefer to hire pilots who are already typed on their aircraft.

...but only a cheap operator (or department manager) flying multi-million dollar aircraft would overlook an otherwise qualified, well-fitting candidate simply because they don't have a type rating.

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Old 11-24-2010 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Of course a company would prefer to hire pilots who are already typed on their pilots.

...but only a cheap operator (or department manager) flying multi-million dollar aircraft would overlook an otherwise qualified, well-fitting candidate simply because they don't have a type rating.
yes sir, very very true. We've all been victims of that at one point or another, or at least most of us.
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Old 11-24-2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
Most departments I am familiar with do not care about you having a type rating.....but yes they want some experience and often want Intl PIC experience...and no - Canada and the islands don't count. lol.

We are looking to add a Falcon pilot soon, and could care less if the person is rated.
Its been a loooong time since i've seen a G-V, Global or large Falcon job posting that didn't require a type rating. And forget about the 300 hours in type, now it seems they want 500.
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Old 11-24-2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 7Xdriver
Well....not so much. If someone fits the profile and has a type rating, why would someone consider anyone else??? You save a LOT on initial training costs. To say managers don't care about such a leg-up is not what I have experienced.

I work for a Fortune 50 company and we have been searching for some time for someone who has a type, is local and is in the 30-40ish range (for future retirement considerations). If you add in the more important factor....will this person fit into our corporate culture....so far does not exist.

I think what you, NowCorp.... are saying is that at some point the those who hire in the Corporate sector will rethink what the profile is based on what is available . This is where we are at.

Currently, we are considering hiring someone who we can grow as our own. Someone who is a bit "wet under the ears" but talented and fits our profile.

If we could get this person with a type (in our types)....they are a shoe-in

Just sayin'

Well....I kinda THINK we are saying the same thing?



We will pass on a DA-7X contractor for a full time job, regardless of his type and 500hrs in the airplane because, well...why is he a contractor? does nobody want to hire him? why?

Same goes for many experienced guys rated in GV/GLEX/900/7X etc. Not that this can apply across the board these days - but why are they unemployed? Why were they the ones chosen during the cutbacks? Been there and participated in the decision process...and please, no matter what they tell you, you aren't usually eligible for re-hire. lol. Its called cleaning house.

Anyhow, my experience with this is mostly in a major metro area. The qualified/experienced guys who were known as good guys didn't spend long looking for work even at the lows in the market - typed or not people wanted them. Being local helps a lot. Others (the house cleaning part) took a lot longer. One can guess as to why.

Maybe I have been lucky. The few places I worked so far have been far more concerned with getting the right person as a fit as opposed to saving 40K on an initial.

And I agree, finding the right person is a very, very hard process. Having participated in a lot of hiring, the simple fact is that you dont know what you have for at least a year...and thats what scares me most about hiring into our very small department.

Have a good Thanksgiving!

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