cobber

They make you produce proof that you've resigned your number from the airline and then put you through 14 days of intense training on how to deal with people again

psd020

To add on to this thread, does anybody have any cool spots to check out in Dallas, good bars, restaurants etc. Goin down in Jan for a 604 type at Bombardier/Simuflite. Also any big difference between Flight Safety and the previous mentioned establishment? Thx.

QuietSpike

One word.

Bonedaddy's.


You will not need to know anything else.

cobber

Yeah I suppose since you are there you should check out Bonedaddys. Its like the southwestern version of Hooters. Most of the girls there are 2 steps away from the stripper pole (not sayin its bad thing but there are a few smokin hot ones there. Depending on where you are staying theres a few places you can check out without driving all the way into Dallas. The Embassy suites by outdoor world in Grapevine is great. They have an amazing breakfast every morning thats included in the Bombardier rate plus they have a free happy hour for guests in the evenings from 5-7pm I think. Downtown Grapevine has 3 or 4 cool little restaurants on the main strip.

If you don't go anywhere else for BBQ while you are there go to "Hard 8". Be prepared to over eat - its the best bbq i've ever had. Myself and several of my class mates ate there about 6 times over the course of training.

As far as the better training facility I believe thats a matter of opinion and personal experience. My company wont give FS money ever again. They have given them a recurrent every couple of years and FS continues to disappoint I guess. Ive done a type at Simuflight and Bombardier (completely unaffiliated even though they share the same complex) and I did my airline training at the FS in Houston for the EMB-145 - so far Bombardier has been the best. Plus its nice to get training directly from the manufacturer IMO.

galaxy flyer

We hired four CRJ pilots and all checked out in 605s without problems. The systems are similar, as I understand it ( didn't fly the CRJ), the plane is short couples, o it does react quickly to pitch and yaw inputs, roll, not so much. V1 cuts require near full rudder and some aileron. Performance is all done in the FMS, manual numbers are for engine out work. Business jet training will be less rigid on things like checklist responses, radio calls than the airline, once you show that you can tune and talk with competence. Get a good handle on VNAV, you will use it a lot, it'll make your life easier and simpler once you get it.. Don't get too hung up on the auto throttles, if you are learning they might be more of a complication than a help. YMMV.

The Embassy Suites mentioned is good, but the Hilton Southlake has better shopping at DFW. Flight Safety ILM isn't has much fun, the Hilton is probably the best, but there is a Marriott Courtyard if you need Marriott points.

The plane is great to fly, it is no fighter, but performs better than the CRJ 200 by a bunch. I've done KBDL to Budapest, PANC to Khavarovsk, non-stop. You'll have to stay on the track system crossing the ocean, but that is not a problem. Cruise at M.80 all the time, except when going farther than 3,500 nm, then you might need to slow to M.77.

It is a good plane, bulletproof, but then there is the Global.

GF

Climbto450

The question is why would anyone want to leave a major for a corporate job? I have spent the last 15 years trying to get to the majors, I have seen corporate go to crap. I want out!!!

QuietSpike

I left a legacy carrier to go to "THE STREAM!!"

Now that I am out of "THE STREAM", I refuse to go to an airline again.


Majors are regionals now with bigger planes. Not pleasant at all, and everyone complains complains complains (not to say they aren't top notch professionals... just top notch professionals that have a lot to say about things!)... just like at the regionals. Not to mention the pay is garbage now, no matter what airline you go to. To make what I have made on average in the past 5 years in corp at a major/legacy airline, I would have to be there 20 years!

Trust me... larger planes do not equal larger paychecks.

galaxy flyer

Quite right, Spike. I did airlines and never meet a happy airline pilot--complain, complain, that's all. Much more fun in the AF or Corp. We leave well on the road, time off in places like HKG, WAW, Berlin. Lots of fun! Happy crews

GF

NowCorporate

The great thing about corp is that when your job goes to crap, you pack up and take your experience to a better job....not the bottom of the list.

Jobs change when companies/management change. Why stay if it has gone to crap?

The dude

Having done both, I'd say the Airlines have nothing on a good Corporate Job. Much better quality of life on the road and less stress while at home. I'll never go back.