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Old 07-21-2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by QuietSpike
Ooohhh... The great Carl has spoken.

My post is entirely fact. Sorry, for some reason, you cannot handle the truth.
You're easily, provably wrong. Anyone can investigate for themselves and they will come to that conclusion...and not just about the cabin size. Nearly everything you've posted is provably wrong.. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Old 07-22-2011 | 02:07 AM
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I dont care what you think they market it as....nobody buying an airplane thinks a Falcon 2000 is a "large cabin"....just sit in one for 5hrs and see.

It certainly isn't marketed to compete with the traditional Global/G5 aircraft, in fact nothing Falcon makes does....and I never heard anyone at Dassualt make such a claim...Falcon lives off of buyer loyalty (largely based on market preservation) and nothing else.

You guys gotta put down the free aviation magazines/surveys and de-dork yourselves.

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Old 07-22-2011 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
I dont care what you think they market it as....nobody buying an airplane thinks a Falcon 2000 is a "large cabin"....just sit in one for 5hrs and see.

It certainly isn't marketed to compete with the traditional Global/G5 aircraft, in fact nothing Falcon makes does....and I never heard anyone at Dassualt make such a claim...Falcon lives off of buyer loyalty (largely based on market preservation) and nothing else.

You guys gotta put down the free aviation magazines/surveys and de-dork yourselves.

Hahahaha, priceless!
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Old 07-22-2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're easily, provably wrong. Anyone can investigate for themselves and they will come to that conclusion...and not just about the cabin size. Nearly everything you've posted is provably wrong.. You don't know what you're talking about.

Carl

Ok, then let me post some numbers, and you can decide for yourself....

Price:
Falcon 2000s- "under 25 mil"
G280- 24 mil

Cabin Volume:
Falcon 2000s- 1000 ft3
G280- 935 ft3 (oh, and you should tell Gulfstream to stop marketing the G280 as a "large cabin". Read the opening header- http://gulfstream.vo.llnwd.net/o36/a...ns%20Sheet.pdf)

Range:
Falcon 2000s- 3350 nm at .80 with 6 pax
G250- 3400nm at .80 with 4 pax


You can try and belittle people all you want, Carl. You have been doing it for years on here. I remember why I quit coming to these boards when I was an airline pilot-- too many wizards sitting in their dark rooms thinking they are speaking and everyone is listening, only to learn they are just a lonely old man hiding behind a curtain and a microphone. So much negativity on here... boys, have at it. This kat is done. Life is too short...
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Old 07-22-2011 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by QuietSpike
You can try and belittle people all you want, Carl. You have been doing it for years on here. I remember why I quit coming to these boards when I was an airline pilot-- too many wizards sitting in their dark rooms thinking they are speaking and everyone is listening, only to learn they are just a lonely old man hiding behind a curtain and a microphone.
You're quite the drama queen aren't you. Calling out someone like you who has done almost nothing but spew baseless attacks probably does feel like belittling to you. But if you're going to do that, you've got to be ready to be confronted. Despite your silly personal attacks above, what you've posted below is why you needed to be confronted:

Originally Posted by QuietSpike
and rebranding it the G280-- different from the rest of the brand-- is ensuring its place as the red-headed step child of the Gulfstream family.
Originally Posted by QuietSpike
The cabin, gear, crap door, and a lot of systems are the same
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the g2580 has had to fight off the galaxy stigma... And not be the bastard child of the gulfstream line....
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Trying to appease the Chinese and in turn making the 250 exactly what the 200 was, the red-headed step child may HELP sales in China, but it will hurt sales globally...
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I would think someone from the manufacturer wouldn't be allowed to post on here.
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Didn't mean to touch such a nerve with you Gdriver1 that you had to start an account and make 1 post... good luck to you in life.
Enjoy your vacation.

Carl
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Old 09-22-2011 | 05:28 PM
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The door is crap Carl. Seen it personally. Had a demo flight get cancelled because of the door
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