Originally Posted by QuietSpike

G1... incorrect on numerous accounts.

The largest cabin in the SMS class is now the Falcon 2000s. Over 1000 cubic feet of volume. It can also fly the same distance with more people at the same speeds. Best performance in class?

Originally Posted by NowCorporate

The reason it does not sell is that it is a hunk of crap, plain and simple.

Anything related to the Galaxy/G200 in looks, performance, resale value, etc should junked, not re-branded.

Then again, are any small aircraft selling well?

Originally Posted by BoilerUP

The 2000S is not a supermid, it is a large-cabin with with supermid range and slightly higher than supermid average price.

Only time will tell if it ends up taking a sizable number of sales away from competing supermids...

Originally Posted by QuietSpike

Then you should tell Dassault to quit marketing the 2000s as a super mid-size...

Originally Posted by GDriver1

Let's correct some of Spike's expert statements: The cabin is the largest in the SMS class. It will be re-designed with new furniture, cabinetry, entertainment systems, controls (via iPod/iPad), better soundproofing, and a walkthrought to baggage. The gear looks the same, but is re-designed and will now allow easy pinning for towing. The door is now hydraulic (not electric with pulley and cable).

Almost every system is a new design. This includes new engines, T-tail, wings (scaled G550 airfoil), fuel system, avionics, flight controls, brakes (brake by wire with autobraking), hydraulics, vacuum lav, standard autothrottles, optional HUD/EVS/Synthetic Vision etc. Performance will also be best in class.

It is more accurate to compare the G280 systems to the G550/650 than a G200. About the only carry over is nosewheel steering which works great so no need to fix it.

Changing the name to be more acceptable in a market that tends to buy 50+ aircraft at a time seems like a reasonable decision.

Originally Posted by QuietSpike

G1... incorrect on numerous accounts.

The largest cabin in the SMS class is now the Falcon 2000s. Over 1000 cubic feet of volume. It can also fly the same distance with more people at the same speeds. Best performance in class?

The wing is actually scaled down 450 wing with the 550 winglet design (if I remember, it is 58% scaled down, it was just marketed as the scaled down 550 wing). When I said the cabin is the same- the cross section is the same... same tube, just 1 ft longer in the living space so the rear most seat can now recline. Didn't realize I had to get EXTREMELY specific for you. I guess now I should mention the aisle will be flat throughout now as well, no more hump into the lav where the fuel tank used to be. The door may have hydraulics, but that is only part of the problem-- the latch that has grounded many airplanes remains (last I heard).

Comparing the systems on the 280 to the systems on a 550 is like comparing a 550 to an A380.. they both fly through the air and have wings/engines/tail/efis/autothrottles/raas/hud/etc.

Changing the name to the 280 reminds me of the Chevy NOVA myth-- wouldn't sell in spanish speaking countries because it meant 'doesn't go' in espanol but it actually sold well. snopes.com: Nova Don't Go

Trying to appease the Chinese and in turn making the 250 exactly what the 200 was, the red-headed step child may HELP sales in China, but it will hurt sales globally... not that that thing is selling all that well anyway

I would think someone from the manufacturer wouldn't be allowed to post on here.
Didn't mean to touch such a nerve with you Gdriver1 that you had to start an account and make 1 post... good luck to you in life.

Originally Posted by QuietSpike

Then you should tell Dassault to quit marketing the 2000s as a super mid-size... And the price and operating cost is essentially the same, therefore they compete.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Correct on all counts GDriver1.

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

This post is BS in its entirety. You don't know what you're talking about.

Carl