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Old 09-06-2013 | 10:16 PM
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So, any guys out there with input on the Citation X? How is it to fly? Would you take a position flying it? Seems like a dream aircraft. Am I wrong? Would you pass up a pretty good opportunity to fly the Citation X to wait for the phone call from UAL, Delta, AA, or Atlas? Or would you take the Corporate position? This is such a fricken awesome aircraft.......the X is awesome from what I can tell.......so.....what would you do? This on the surface seems like the ideal corporate job to have the ability to retire from.

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Old 09-06-2013 | 10:36 PM
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What do you define as a dream aircraft? My Dad who has flies large cabin long range corporate jets wouldn't and doesn't want anything to do with a citation, regardless of what citation it is. For some pilots it's all about QOL rather than aircraft type. However, he's had good QOL. Interestingly enough his dream job, after retirement, is a King Air 350.

Why can't you take the job and keep resumes in with the legacy's? If you like the job then stay. If not at least you'll already have your apps in.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 10:53 PM
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Don't base a career decision on aircraft type. It's all about quality of life.

The X is fun to fly. It's fast, climbs at a higher speed than most airliners are cruising. Below 30,000ft, it climbs like a pig. Cockpit layout is decent, but its still a Citation. Can be a little squirrelly on landing / at low speeds. Doesn't like strong crosswinds. It tends to break a lot, but we fly the crap out of them.

I liked it. Would love to fly it again.
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Old 09-07-2013 | 05:49 AM
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Why can't you take the job and keep resumes in with the legacy's? If you like the job then stay. If not at least you'll already have your apps in.
This is what I'm thinking...
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Old 09-07-2013 | 06:34 AM
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This is what I'm thinking...
That's a valid point although I'd be moving and pretty much making a life decision so just to do it for the job isn't the point. I really would like to make it a career if I decide and have the opportunity given to me.

I guess my question wasn't necessarily about the Citation X but more about the QOL on average most dudes have that fly it. Or is it so random it could range from great to bad? On the surface so far everything I've learned about the position seems like it would fit me and my life. What specifics would be deal breakers I guess? What should I be asking myself? Of course when I talk to my airlines bros, I get pretty much a pro-airline input. I'm just looking for some input from the corporate side. What should make or break, from experience, the QOL on a corporate position?
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Old 09-07-2013 | 06:35 AM
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I like the X. But that's about it. Has a lot of quirks duentonthe 500+ messages that you could get at anytime. It flies nice. It's also a little over-hyped when it comes to x-wind landings, etc. feels like any other jet to me anyway.

Anyway, it keeps me away from home as well as any other jet. Qol is #1.
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Old 09-07-2013 | 07:17 AM
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Although the X seems great, a jet is a jet for the most part. I'd be focused on what the pay is vs. what your schedule will be. Are you on call? Hard days off? Good benefits? Stable company/ owner? Good people to work with? In my opinion, this is what will determine your QOL, not the airplane...
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Old 09-07-2013 | 09:21 AM
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It all depends. How many pilots? If its just you and the chief you better be ok with no hard days off. Also, flying with the same guy can get old fast. Ask me how I know
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Old 09-07-2013 | 05:15 PM
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You haven't felt pain until you've done a 6 hr leg in the X at FL450 sucking on oxygen. If I ever go back to NJA, I hope to stay far away from the X.

Having said that, it's a cool plane. It is just way too tight up front for the long legs that it can fly. Also, flying above FL410 is not cool, it sucks.
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Old 09-07-2013 | 05:20 PM
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Clearly, one of the very few who actually adhered to FAR 91.211. A hero! OTOH, there are those who don't fly above F410 for that exact reason, compliance with that section.

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