cac737

There is just no way that anyone can justify what was done here as anything but a big bag of BS! I don't care if these guys are aerobatic instructors and have done this a thousand times, they were stupid to even think about doing this and worse videotaping it. I for one hope there is some way to trace this and they get their asses canned!

I mean...why? These are nothing but little boys still trying to show off, and unfortunately they found an immature audience that applauds them.

First off the airplane is not certified for those type of manuevers. Second, I would bet cash money the owner(S) would press charges and push for violations after firing them. Can the airplane handle it? There are reasons why it is not certified for aerobatic manuevers you bunch of idiots. beyond the airframe and engines, there are a host of other things that need to be thought about like all the various parts of the interior, avionics, baggage compartments, and anyone with citation time can tell you that it is nothing but a flimsy little snap on door that separates baggage from certain avionics, batteries etc.... all it takes is for one little **** up and there you have it.

This brings to mind another wonderful pair that decided to showboat.....unfortunately for them their little "trick" cost them their lives and put an otherwise good canadair regional jet through the ground. I dont care what other secondary causes you might blame, fact is they decided to showboat an otherwise normal thing like going up to the airplanes max ceiling, but their focus on showboating and not on piloting is the point behind all this.

This may fall on deaf ears, and if anyone thinks...awww shut up, this is no big deal.....then i say fine. please showboat only when you are ferrying and that way we wont have to worry about you bringing anyone else down with you and wont have to worry about running into your type out on the line.

unfortunately for you types....your moment of clarity will come when you reap the violations for being caught or worse....as your showboating flashes between your eyes right before you......

AVIATING IS TERRIBLY UNFORGIVING OF ANY CARELESSNESS OR RECKLESSNESS.

cac737

God, I love this. Chicken out? what?....on an anonymous internet board? Real courage there buddy!

Allow me to inform you on some things. Bob Hoover was an airforce test pilot. He was the backup pilot to Chuck Yeager on the Mach 1 test program. He doesn't step outside the box, but does things that he was trained for like operating on the edges of the envelope. His gift is that he truly loves what he does, his passion and imagination turns flying into the artform that it is, and that is what endears him to millions! He would tell you that yes, there is a time and place for everything and he would also tell you that

"there are bold pilot, and there are old pilots, But there are NO old bold pilots"
unfortunately for people like you who think this is cool, you dont know enough to know better, but hopefully one day you'll get it, so that you can join the old club.

I dont mean to come off as someone shaking my fingers down at people, it just drives me crazy to witness dangerous and carelessness being cheered at.


WTF?

Blackhawk

Please don't do even this unless you have had the airplane recertified, as Bob Hoover did. He had the guts to do it publicly, and recertified his Shrike so it would never be flown by anyone else. I do not want to be the unsuspecting pilot who takes up an airplane that has been put through the numbers by these idiots.

Look at Bob Hoover, one of the best damn sticks to demonstrate an airplanes ability!!! He did things with that Shrike that were amazing and beautiful. If he never stepped out of the box, we would've never seen them.
As I posted before to this stupid statement. Bob Hoover had his airplane recertified Experimental-Airshow/Exhibition and was man enough to do his demonstrations publicly in his own airplane. Once he had it recertified, there was almost no chance his Shrike would ever again carry passengers.
These guys are a couple of immature cowards.

Corpdude

Cool Vid...

ironbird

Why does this thing p@#$#@ so many people off. First things first, does anyone know any FACTS as to why this was done. Was it authorized or better yet who did this maneuver. If this was done by so called professionals just out of curiosity, and not some maufacturer testing of some kind then that I do agree is down right stupidity.

cac737

HUH? ok, I'll give you the benefit of th doubt that you approach things like I do....that is with a fair and balanced approach and look into both sides of a story before deciding or opining....but you have got to be kidding me here!

If it was Cessna doing this they would have made a hell of a publicity announcement along with spare no expense marketing (whatever they are touting). they would have done this from the cockpit as well, showing you what was happening up front and to head off the naysayers, they would have on file some sort of experimental status with the Feds should anyone get excited about this.....check cessna's website and you'll not find one kilobyte's worth mention of this.......so uhhh i dont think this is cessna or officially sanctioned.

Its not only the fact that we have little boys out there that havent grown out of their "hero" phases and are doing stupid shyte like this.....but that their kind seems to find an audience that applauds their actions and therefore encourages them to repeat said mistakes.

what's more, say they did damage or weaken something.....it doesnt go noticed till some time or worse.......it goes unnoticed and then at some point that weakness becomes a failure and then the unsuspecting people on the plane at that point in the future reaps the consequences of these idiots.

if you look into certain accidents in the past several have been caused by hairline cracks in metal or by something the size of a grain of sand in the worst place possible.....things like this can happen, it's just shows how aviating can be quite vulnerable at times......but now doing something like this in an aircraft that is not certified for it just invites additional possibilities into something.....

people become amazed when planes and engines can go for a lifetime without major incident, but become speechless when a hairline crack can bring down a DC-10 on rotation or a B747 inflight with hundreds on board.....

think guys......

Ewfflyer

And what implied that my "Stupid Statement" had nothing to do with how he handled that issue????? Jesus you guys are wired up and looking for a fight. I talked with a guy that had the honor to fly with Bob, and he said it was absolutely amazing the mans skill, smoothness, and knowledge.

So until next time, Keep on Flaming, seeing how you guys have nothing positive to say about anything in the world, which I'm sure is ending tomorrow in your eyes anyways.

Blackhawk

Again:
1. These guys are not Bob Hoover.
2. Bob Hoover was above board when he did these things; he was not some coward who hid. There was never a question about which airplane he did it in, and since the airplane he was flying was recertified there were no worries about some unsuspecting saps flying it under 135 (once an airplane is certified experimental-airshow/exhibition it is difficult to go back). When he was done with the airplane he gave it to the Air Space Museum again removing any chance that it would ever carry passengers.
When people buy used aerobatic aircraft, it is assumed the airplane has done aerobatics. When some one buys a used transport airplane, it is assumed it has NOT done aerobatics.
I am fed up with the "Well Bob Hoover did it" excuse.

ufoDziner

Actually, you're wrong. An Aileron roll keeps the plane on axis and you are at -1g while inverted. Where a barrel roll keeps the plane close to +1g all the way around. All you have to do is see the attitude at the beginning and end to know which it was.

Fed-Up

This is stupid!