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It seems like a lot of you out there seem to forget about the avionics in an airplane. The Citation is not made to to stuff like that, and it will screw up instruments in a second.

Ignorance abounds in this business.......you usually don't have to look too far, it's sitting in the seat next to you Captain Rogue.

Frankley the Barrell roll in the 707 performed by Kelly Johnston was far more impressive than this. The only possible harm may be to the gyros, if in fact this was an older version of the near jet.

From todays AIN:

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Cargo Pilots’ Aileron Roll Attempt Damages Learjet
At about 3:30 a.m. on January 10, the pilots flying a cargo-carrying Learjet 35 from Jacksonville, Fla., to Columbus, Ohio, for Airnet Systems attempted an aileron roll, according to the NTSB, but the maneuver wasn’t entirely successful. “The crew reported they did an intentional roll,” said NTSB investigator-in-charge Todd Fox. “There was substantial damage. The elevators were bent, and there was some stabilizer damage. Major damage was to the left wing; there was a large crease in the stainless-steel leading edge.” Fox was told that this was the last flight for the Learjet captain before he was to move on to a new job flying passengers for a Part 121 airline. Fox’s Chicago NTSB office will release, probably this week, a data-collection report on the incident. Data-collection reports are a new short form that is a combination of the typical preliminary and factual reports, Fox explained.

My guess is that this was more likely than not, the last flight for the learjet captain for a long while. Can't say I feel too sorry for him either.

and This Is Why You Dont %$#@ Around!

I gotta be totally honest that looked a little nuts... I wonder what their airspeed was in that maneuver???? Also I wonder if they did that up in the class alpha airspace, I haven't a clue where the video was shot. I heard of a lear 55 barrell rolling out of KSDF one night.

Also heres yet another video of someone who has obviously blown a fuse... Heres a beech 1900, if the roll isn't enough to cause alarm, check out how low the guy goes over this river.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzwqIxt1q8

Just by chance I ran across yet another African Beech 1900 video... these guys are nuts. Of course I am not really sure who is more nuts, the pilots or the sorry sucker with the camera especially in the first 30 seconds of the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir34G...related&search=

From a website in regards to Barrel roll G loading.... http://stason.org/TULARC/sports/avia...s-Figures.html

The Barrel Roll is a not competition maneuver. I The barrel roll is a
combination between a loop and a roll. You complete one loop while
completing one roll at the same time. The flight path during a barrel
roll has the shape of a horizontal cork screw. Imagine a big barrel,
with the airplanes wheels rolling along the inside of the barrel in a
cork screw path. During a barrel roll, the pilot experiences always
positive G's. The maximum is about 2.5 to 3 G and the minimum about 0.5 G.

I only posted this for those that said a barrel roll is 1g flight....i'd say typically it is 2g's at a minimum as you are pulling up to begin it, and pulling up to end it. At the top is when you may lessen the pull and may enter the less than 1g range (but if done at the right speed you would never need to relax back stick pressure).

I am by no means an expert aerobatic pilot, I do however do these procedures on a regular basis in the T-6 Texan II