Buck Rogers

Come on Fish.....you, you, you......you make this all about you, your family, your work .... yada , yada , yada. “It takes a village to raise a family” ...come on man, get with the program!! (Sarcasm emoji). Common sense is not allowed when politics is involved. A modified normal would require some common sense......then politics enter with MSM leading the charge.

You will note that this whole hydroxychloriquine helps thing is only propaganda being spewed by Faux news and twitter...read that here a few pages ago so must be right, right?

2StgTurbine

I referring to the people on here who thought/still think it is some hoax by the MSM.

Millions "normal" looking people fit definition of comprised. This is not only affecting old people or people who are already on death's door. Would you call a 50 year old endurance cyclists old or compromised? And once the healthcare system gets saturated, then deaths will increase even if cases were treatable. Once people start seeing people they know be hospitalized or die, they won't want to go outside anyway. Do you really think that 1-2 million deaths won't have a large negative impact on society?

It's not giving up. Its understanding the situation and preparing for it. There isn't a large enough supply of hydroxychloroquine to give to everyone. Even if there was, its effect isn't enough. The thing we can do that has the BIGGEST impact (which will cause this to end sooner and the economy to recover quicker) is social distancing. That isn't "giving up."

CBreezy

Until we can develop an antibody test OR new cases and deaths plummet, even a modified normal could send us back into a crisis. I'm sorry for you and your family that this is hurting everyone. I'm more than likely to be furloughed by all this. But staying at home to save millions of people at risk of financial difficulties is a worthy sacrifice.

fishforfun

Who said cure?

fishforfun

So we are good with tens of thousands of lives lost? Who gets to draw the line?

forgot to bid

They should, right?
That's a bad flu season which even Fauci 2 weeks ago said This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS,"

And that's before they slashed the numbers tremendously over the last week. Which by the way, the epidemiologist that said 2.2M and then revised it down to a fraction of that was also the one in 2002 who created a model that caused the UK to cull 6 million livestock for foot-and-mouth, unnecessarily.

CBreezy

The last week in the US, every single day has over doubled the worst ever days of flu deaths in the history of the database. And this is with nearly the entire country shutdown. But please, pull some bs out of your rear about how there are more flu deaths right now than Covid.

CBreezy

It's down BECAUSE of social distancing and stay at homes. You do understand how these models work, right? That UK model was corrected BECAUSE the UK shutdown. Why is this so hard to get through your thick skulls?

fishforfun

More flu deaths every year WITH vaccines and therapeutic drugs.

casual observer

If I was a doctor, I would speak like Fauci. Hydro has not been adequately studied in regards to CV. It might not do anything in regards to CV and if he prematurely supports it, that could ruin his credibility. He's right to say what he says.

If I was Trump, I would say what he is saying. There are limited studies and anecdotal evidence that it can sometimes make a difference. It's a drug that is studied enough and used enough that Delta was telling me to use it before trips to Africa. Very little evidence of negative side effects. Some physicians see the most devastating part of Covid is the rapid onset of your body's immune system going full throttle, and, in essence, killing you to kill the virus. Hydro is a drug that suppresses that. That's probably why doctors started trying it with CV to begin with. At the very least, it could act as placebo that could have benefit in terms of hope or placebo effect to a desperate population. So, I think Trump is doing the right thing in terms of his role.

I do not understand the resistance of permitting the hope and potential of this drug as part of a comprehensive approach to addressing the crisis.