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Old 07-06-2020 | 05:55 AM
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July 4, 2019, was a Thursday. That helps put the data in a bit more context.
Old 07-06-2020 | 05:58 AM
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Not as good as we were all expecting...
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Old 07-06-2020 | 06:32 AM
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Old 07-06-2020 | 06:38 AM
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His note at the bottom regarding the Highest point was actually Thursday 7/2. We hit highs for both total pax and percentage of 36.5% for the recovery that day.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
His note at the bottom regarding the Highest point was actually Thursday 7/2. We hit highs for both total pax and percentage of 36.5% for the recovery that day.
The 36.5% reference and other day to day references for this week in particular are good examples of statistics being misleading when taken out of context.

Because the TSA table matches weekday to weekday, the Thursday 7/2 numbers from this year are matched with Thursday 7/4 numbers from last year. Comparing a ‘high travel’ Thursday this year with a ‘low-travel’ holiday Thursday last year produces the 36.5% number, which is misleading.

When considering the week in general we are looking at 26% ish. That’s a more accurate indication of what we are actually seeing.
Old 07-06-2020 | 07:53 AM
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Sure wish we had a source for domestic YOY and international YOY. For that matter, Strictly domestic, domestic to get to an international departure point, and international.

because my hunch is that international truly sucks, and that’s the primary thing holding numbers down. For that matter, in a good year 80 million passengers will embark on cruises from North American ports, and only a small minority live there. Most generate an airline trip each way to get to that port city.
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Originally Posted by pad39a
The 36.5% reference and other day to day references for this week in particular are good examples of statistics being misleading when taken out of context.

Because the TSA table matches weekday to weekday, the Thursday 7/2 numbers from this year are matched with Thursday 7/4 numbers from last year. Comparing a ‘high travel’ Thursday this year with a ‘low-travel’ holiday Thursday last year produces the 36.5% number, which is misleading.

When considering the week in general we are looking at 26% ish. That’s a more accurate indication of what we are actually seeing.
Agreed, 7/2 and 7/4 were outliers this week due to the holiday weekend. 26-28% seems more accurate at the moment. Not super good, but also by no means bad in the current environment.
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Originally Posted by flyinthrew
Yep. I’ve said before that I’m not a big follower of YOY but in this case it can be quite informative. I like that whoever publishes this made the constant the day of the week and not the date, but if the YOY turns out weird that will probably be the reason.
I’m watching this next week but we seem to have broken my 2 pct YOY observation in a very positive way.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Sure wish we had a source for domestic YOY and international YOY. For that matter, Strictly domestic, domestic to get to an international departure point, and international.

because my hunch is that international truly sucks, and that’s the primary thing holding numbers down. For that matter, in a good year 80 million passengers will embark on cruises from North American ports, and only a small minority live there. Most generate an airline trip each way to get to that port city.
Agreed. The decline in international flying definitely has a compound effect on companies that fly internationally. No doubt management at each company is crunching some numbers to predict the effect you're referring to but they're not sharing their data.......
Old 07-06-2020 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Skylarking
Agreed. The decline in international flying definitely has a compound effect on companies that fly internationally. No doubt management at each company is crunching some numbers to predict the effect you're referring to but they're not sharing their data.......
I wonder what the fall will bring. I think we level out or go back down
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