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Old 07-08-2020, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
As far as WoW comparisons go, yesterday was the last day to compare June to July increases as airlines added thousands more flights on 7/1. Future trends will rely on WoW changes starting tomorrow. Hope that makes sense.
American added their flights on the 7th.
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Ill say it again.... Fall is going to be brutal
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632,498

A Wednesday lower than a Tuesday. It happened after Memorial Day as well but I don’t know if they’re comparable since Memorial Day was on the Monday. Fingers crossed it’s just holiday noise and not a post stall gyration.
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632,498

A Wednesday lower than a Tuesday. It happened after Memorial Day as well but I don’t know if they’re comparable since Memorial Day was on the Monday. Fingers crossed it’s just holiday noise and not a post stall gyration.
25.1% of 2019 levels.

we are having a hard time hitting the 30% mark, besides July 4 weekend.

maybe when Disney re-opens, etc. we see an uptick
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
25.1% of 2019 levels.

we are having a hard time hitting the 30% mark, besides July 4 weekend.

maybe when Disney re-opens, etc. we see an uptick
2 pct increase YOY per week has held steady. The week before the holiday we were at 21 pct. I expected 23 for the holiday but pleasantly it was 25 and has remained so. If we hit 27 for next week then the climb is steady. It’s still dismal as it means almost 3 more months till we hit half the demand of last year.
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
25.1% of 2019 levels.

we are having a hard time hitting the 30% mark, besides July 4 weekend.

maybe when Disney re-opens, etc. we see an uptick
Not many people looking forward to wearing masks when it is 90 degrees with a dew point of 80.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:28 AM
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Not many people looking forward to wearing masks when it is 90 degrees with a dew point of 80.
Not only that, but the dedicated Disney folk are sharpening their pitchforks at the moment. Many of the parks won’t be open, they aren’t taking restaurant reservations, etc. People on the Disney message boards are not happy, and are seeking refunds. My parents and my sister’s family both canceled their late Aug Disney trips last week because they don’t want to spend a ton of money just to sit in a resort room and not do anything...and apparently the sentiment on the Disney message boards is similar.

They spent three full days calling Disney and getting a busy signal over and over just to cancel their trips—I doubt it was busy due to new bookings.

Anecdotal, of course...
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32 View Post
Not many people looking forward to wearing masks when it is 90 degrees with a dew point of 80.
Yes, I don’t have any hope in the Disney opening argument. Matter of fact, they tried to get most people to reschedule to next year to get the capacity down.
-No parades
-No fireworks
-Masks for 2 year olds and up
-No character meet and greets
-No Fastpass
-Only 30% of their hotels are open
-Limited dining
-Limited shows
-Having a hotel on site doesn’t guarantee park entry
-They haven’t called back half the work force still on furlough

Thats just part of the list. Of course they had to do this to be safe and from what I’ve seen so far, the precautions in the park are done very well. But the “when Disney opens” TSA boost is not a factor in my mind. I know two families that cancelled their summer trips there.
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Ive said this before but I feel a lot of people are over estimating the impact of Disney World reopening on air travel.

2019 total pax in all US airports = 1,053,000,000
2019 total pax at MCO = 50,000,000

Its just 4%. And not all 50,000,000 went to Disney when you take out locals, business travel and convention travel in central FL. Let’s say those flying into other FL airports add a bit back, it’s still less then 4% total US travelers by air that are going to Disney.

Best case MCO has just 100k out of the 2.7million pax that flew daily last summer. And that 100k is for all reasons. Back out locals, business travel and convention traffic and that number maybe only 50-75k per day to Disney last summer.

So the Disney bump, best case, adds 75K per day to the TSA numbers. Assuming due to to reasons already mentioned, the numbers this summer at Disney are half of last year, than we are down to 30-40k per day bump.

so yeah I’ll take 30-40k more each day, but it’s not going to get us the significant bump some are expecting.
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Here’s a chart of YOY percentages.
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