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Old 06-02-2020, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32 View Post
These protests are going to have a negative impact on travel and most likely slow things down a bit.
No kidding. Might as well stay home rather than travel to somewhere else if you are going to have a 17:30 curfew And have to breathe smoke and tear gas fumes when you get there. I really think between COVID and rioting we may be seeing the start of the death of the big cities.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:54 AM
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No kidding. Might as well stay home rather than travel to somewhere else if you are going to have a 17:30 curfew And have to breathe smoke and tear gas fumes when you get there. I really think between COVID and rioting we may be seeing the start of the death of the big cities.
I think shopping on Michigan Ave. in Chicago is sorta limited.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:27 AM
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It will blow over. This happens about every 20 years like clockwork.

It's aggravated because uncle sugar is forcing and paying people to sit home, and they have nothing better to do.

Compared to past events, there's little to complain about here. Felon on drugs gets unjustly killed by cop. Cop (+ 3 more) fired the next business day. Cop arrested and charged with murder by the end of the week. Other three are under criminal investigation. Wheels are turning pretty fast on this one. If the AG rushes it, the case will likely fail in court due to due process or sloppy detective work.
Except times have changed.

Cop gets a good lawyer and there’s no way he’s convicted of murder. That’s why the backup manslaughter charge.

And third degree murder probably wouldn’t have been enough to quell the riots anyway. So there is more rioting with the manslaughter verdict.

He gets a REAL good lawyer and he beats the manslaughter charge.

The victim apparently was on fentanyl which is known to cause respiratory arrest and methamphetamines which causes cardiac arrhythmias and he had a cardio respiratory arrest... Who is to say that didn’t cause it? Yada - yada. Beyond a reasonable doubt... Yada-yada. Presumption of innocence... Yada yada.

Not to mention the guy who has taken over prosecution graduated from a mediocre law school 30 years ago, practiced civil rights law for three years, and has been either a politician or party hack ever since, with no actual prosecutorial experience to speak of.

If the cop gets off - assuming they can even find an impartial jury to empanel with all the loudmouth politicians tainting the jury pool- all H€|| breaks loose. And if - far more likely - there’s a hung jury, it’ll REALLY break loose.

And then we get to wash, rinse, and repeat ad nauseum.


and of course the three other cops who were summarily fired are going to have to be judged not in the court of public opinion but by the standards specified in the union contract which almost certainly wasn’t followed by the mayor in his push to do something to show he cared.

All three getting their old jobs back (or being paid an ‘undisclosed amount’ to just go away and become cops elsewhere) is a very real possibility.

This case isn’t the slam dunk legally that most people appear to think it is and it’s very likely to get far uglier before it gets any better, IMHO.
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
It will blow over.

Compared to past events, there's little to complain about here. the case will likely fail in court due to due process issues or sloppy detective work.
Are you serious? This guy was killed on tv for everyone to watch. Not even the ones that are on the other side of this issue can say much about it. Also them charging the cop with 3rd degree murder and not 2nd, considering what he did to him for 8 minutes, as well as their own autopsy revealing that he wasn’t killed by asphyxiation is an absolute disgrace.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post

The victim apparently was on fentanyl which is known to cause respiratory arrest and methamphetamines which causes cardiac arrhythmias and he had a cardio respiratory arrest... Who is to say that didn’t cause it? Yada - yada. Beyond a reasonable doubt... Yada-yada. Presumption of innocence... Yada yada.
Or maybe someone stepping on his neck for 8 minutes? The 2nd autopsy revealed he died because he couldn’t breathe, he was healthy.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
Or maybe someone stepping on his neck for 8 minutes? The 2nd autopsy revealed he died because he couldn’t breathe, he was healthy.
Weren't you the same guy a couple weeks ago that was crying all over these boards that all the states opening up was going to create a spike so large in cases that it would cripple the nation? Doesn't seem to be an issue now does it?

Settle down there MSNBC. Nobody here is disputing what happened was a grave injustice. Also, the prosecutors can always up the charge as new evidence comes out. This is far from over. You are starting to sound like the joke which is the front page of Reddit.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:47 AM
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What is special about 500k?
psychological level. "benchmark"
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32 View Post
Weren't you the same guy a couple weeks ago that was crying all over these boards that all the states opening up was going to create a spike so large in cases that it would cripple the nation? Doesn't seem to be an issue now does it?

Settle down there MSNBC. Nobody here is disputing what happened was a grave injustice. Also, the prosecutors can always up the charge as new evidence comes out. This is far from over. You are starting to sound like the joke which is the front page of Reddit.
As well as claiming it was the media’s job to show/paint/articulate reality
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:31 PM
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Are we still doing Covid?

2.5million by August since we're done with the pandemic and have moved on... sweet, back to work people!
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:37 PM
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Are we still doing Covid?

2.5million by August since we're done with the pandemic and have moved on... sweet, back to work people!
Covid has not gone away, the media (ALL of them) just has something else to broadcast right now
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