Virus came from space
05-18-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
So there is a small community of scientists who hypothesized that this virus came from a meteor. Its sounds fanciful and totally conspiritorial until you take the time to read into it a bit.
Key points:
- Viruses can live in outer space.
- There are REAL scientists dedicated to this feild. Astro biologists.
- A meteor hit near Wuhan in fall last year.
- The explosive widespread prevalence of the virus in Wuhan is not likely to have come from a single animal source. Rather it is akin to viral dust spreading all over the city...from a meteor.
Here is an article from Feb touching on the idea.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...oll-latest/amp
Here is a pretty good vid discussing the idea.
https://youtu.be/KwXKzL-yzt8
For the past few months I have been an expert advisor on economics (specifically recession) and some epidemiology. From this point on I will be taking questions on Astrobiology. I have read nearly two whole wikipedia articles on it so am pretty well versed in the subject.
Key points:
- Viruses can live in outer space.
- There are REAL scientists dedicated to this feild. Astro biologists.
- A meteor hit near Wuhan in fall last year.
- The explosive widespread prevalence of the virus in Wuhan is not likely to have come from a single animal source. Rather it is akin to viral dust spreading all over the city...from a meteor.
Here is an article from Feb touching on the idea.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...oll-latest/amp
Here is a pretty good vid discussing the idea.
https://youtu.be/KwXKzL-yzt8
For the past few months I have been an expert advisor on economics (specifically recession) and some epidemiology. From this point on I will be taking questions on Astrobiology. I have read nearly two whole wikipedia articles on it so am pretty well versed in the subject.
05-18-2020, 03:01 PM
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It's Trumps fault.
What? Who said that?
Anyway. Let's wind this back a bit.
Where do viruses come from? What happens to make them form? Do they fall off living cells? What is their (if they are a their.....oh that's interesting in itself) origin?
What? Who said that?
Anyway. Let's wind this back a bit.
Where do viruses come from? What happens to make them form? Do they fall off living cells? What is their (if they are a their.....oh that's interesting in itself) origin?
05-18-2020, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
Where do viruses come from? What happens to make them form? Do they fall off living cells? What is their (if they are a their.....oh that's interesting in itself) origin?
05-18-2020, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Likely mutations in the DNA or RNA of biological cells... the odds against it happening are gazillions to one but there are uncounted of gazillions of cells out there so eventually you get a mutation which can both replicate and survive outside the host long enough to infect other hosts.
So.... Viruses are hypothesized to have come from living cells. They didn't just 'appear' like life did?
And you said they can replicate outside of a cell?
And survive? You mean exist without breaking down? Just want to get it straight.
05-18-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
Ok so they are mutations.....but are they shed from living cells?
Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
So.... Viruses are hypothesized to have come from living cells. They didn't just 'appear' like life did?
Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
And you said they can replicate outside of a cell?
Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
And survive? You mean exist without breaking down? Just want to get it straight.
05-18-2020, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's how they work, hijack a cells DNA or RNA and use it to make copies. Eventually the cell fills up and bursts, releasing the copies.
Far more likely viruses began as mutations of cellular RNA/DNA, since that only requires mutation of an existing mechanism (kind of like cancer). Far less likely they formed spontaneously out of some primordial soup. Exponentially less likely, and I'm talking big exponents.
No they are inert outside of a cell, they only do anything when they break and enter a cell (one mechanism) and then hijack the cell's genetic systems to make copies (another mechanism).
Yes, in the context of a virus, survival = exist without breaking down. It cannot avoid breakdown forever, so eventually it has to get into a cell and replicate. Kind of like a bicycle left out in the weather... it will survive (in operable condition) for some period of time dependent on the type and severity of the weather. A virus is best considered a mechanism or machine more than a living thing. A clorox wipe is severe weather indeed, CAT 5 hurricane.
Far more likely viruses began as mutations of cellular RNA/DNA, since that only requires mutation of an existing mechanism (kind of like cancer). Far less likely they formed spontaneously out of some primordial soup. Exponentially less likely, and I'm talking big exponents.
No they are inert outside of a cell, they only do anything when they break and enter a cell (one mechanism) and then hijack the cell's genetic systems to make copies (another mechanism).
Yes, in the context of a virus, survival = exist without breaking down. It cannot avoid breakdown forever, so eventually it has to get into a cell and replicate. Kind of like a bicycle left out in the weather... it will survive (in operable condition) for some period of time dependent on the type and severity of the weather. A virus is best considered a mechanism or machine more than a living thing. A clorox wipe is severe weather indeed, CAT 5 hurricane.
Off to update wikipedia.
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