We need a plan B for no vaccine.
07-08-2020, 05:10 PM
#281
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Originally Posted by pangolin
I think the inhaled steroid shows great promise. I cited sources. It doesn’t directly address your narrow objections. Sorry about that. I think it could be the plan B for no vaccine that we need.
So you've got nothing to back up your correlation claim.
07-08-2020, 05:45 PM
#282
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Look I brought the initial link. If you look the research is out of one of the countries. It’s not hard to find. It’s valid. I don’t feel like spoon feeding everyone who is a doubter.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/healt...udy/index.html
07-08-2020, 06:33 PM
#283
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Originally Posted by Gordie H
Well it's good that you're at least trying to find us a cure. Stupid Pangolins.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/healt...udy/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/healt...udy/index.html
Ease up on pangolins. It isn’t their fault. They are endangered by all the Chinese that want them fir traditional medicine. So much so, that they are starting captive breeding programs.
Captive breeding of pangolins: current status, problems and future prospects
Liushuai Hua, Shiping Gong, Fumin Wang, Weiye Li, Yan Ge, XiaonanLi, Fanghui Hou
Liushuai Hua, Shiping Gong, Fumin Wang, Weiye Li, Yan Ge, XiaonanLi, Fanghui HouAbstract
Pangolins are unique placental mammals with eight species existing in the world, which have adapted to a highly specialized diet of ants and termites, and are of significance in the control of forest termite disaster. Besides their ecological value, pangolins are extremely important economic animals with the value as medicine and food. At present, illegal hunting and habitat destruction have drastically decreased the wild population of pangolins, pushing them to the edge of extinction. Captive breeding is an important way to protect these species, but because of pangolin’s specialized behaviors and high dependence on natural ecosystem, there still exist many technical barriers to successful captive breeding programs. In this paper, based on the literatures and our practical experience, we reviewed the status and existing problems in captive breeding of pangolins, including four aspects, the naturalistic habitat, dietary husbandry, reproduction and disease control. Some recommendations are presented for effective captive breeding and protection of pangolins.https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/5419/
07-08-2020, 07:26 PM
#284
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Ease up on pangolins. It isn’t their fault. They are endangered by all the Chinese that want them fir traditional medicine. So much so, that they are starting captive breeding programs.
Hey Pangolin, you up? A couple zoos have semi willing females...
https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/5419/
Hey Pangolin, you up? A couple zoos have semi willing females...
https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/5419/
07-08-2020, 07:44 PM
#285
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Originally Posted by Gordie H
Well it's good that you're at least trying to find us a cure. Stupid Pangolins.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/healt...udy/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/healt...udy/index.html
07-17-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
What are your thoughts on ADE from a vaccine that's for a different strain?
1. Get the immunization
2. Get the infection
and
3. Get ADE
For ADE to even be recognized, and of course how long that whole process would take.
New vaccines typically take a decade to become mainstream, and even then you monitor them for reactions. I haven’t QUITE forgotten more biostatistics than I still recall, but there are formulas available that tell you what ‘n’ of experimental subjects you will need to even have the power to detect a given level of ADE if it is there.
You can rush damn near anything (Boeing proved that) But it sometimes costs you substantially. (They proved that too)
Conversely, it might be that the least pathogenic of these would make a great candidate for an attenuated live virus with no problems whatsoever. The truth is WE JUST DON’T KNOW.
But if this and other alleged research findings about strains of COVID-19 is true, whoever said it won’t mutate much may have been...misguided.
07-17-2020, 05:27 PM
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https://youtu.be/8Su5C_YefBU
Fauci is fairly confident of a vaccine by next year. But what does he know compared to the medical experts on APC?
Fauci is fairly confident of a vaccine by next year. But what does he know compared to the medical experts on APC?
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