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Old 07-19-2020, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
I disagree, the majority of the people, and almost all children, are not developing antibodies for Covid 19. Furthermore, at least 50% of population is immune to the virus in the first place.

Developing antibodies are what causes ADE. The second tome you get Covid is worse etc. as to 50 percent immune I have not seen one bit of data on that and you are taking one heck of a leap on the diamond princess. Especially with prison that’s have seen well north of the 70-90 percent infection rates.
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The second tome you get Covid is worse etc.
It is? Hadn't heard that about COVID-19 (aka SARS-CoV-2). References please. It's a possibility, as are many other biological twists and turns, but I don't think they've concluded that it's anything more than a possibility. No need to panic over hypotheticals.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:17 AM
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Developing antibodies are what causes ADE. The second tome you get Covid is worse etc. as to 50 percent immune I have not seen one bit of data on that and you are taking one heck of a leap on the diamond princess. Especially with prison that’s have seen well north of the 70-90 percent infection rates.
The average infection rate at prisons that have Covid outbreaks is 30%. That 70-90% is a massive statistical outlier, probably abysmal testing practices.
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I reiterate, for those parts of the world with reliable statistics, are death rate doesn’t seem much worse than that of other Western countries:

Brah, you're way off the script with that. Remember, America is THE WORST. At everything.
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Strangely enough, I was already aware cats were different than humans. So are pigs birds, bats, civet cats, and pangolins.

Hey.......
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:44 AM
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Hey.......
Different doesn’t mean inferior, pangolin. Just...Well, diverse.

Now about those captive breeding programs...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4490220/

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
It is? Hadn't heard that about COVID-19 (aka SARS-CoV-2). References please. It's a possibility, as are many other biological twists and turns, but I don't think they've concluded that it's anything more than a possibility. No need to panic over hypotheticals.
I was replying to Mesabah saying we should let it rip through the country and not use a vaccine due to ADE. If this were true natural infection would be equally as bad. To my knowledge there has not even been a confirmed reinfection just reminding them ADE also occurs naturally I am with you on this one.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:55 AM
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https://dnyuz.com/2020/07/18/mistrus...read-immunity/
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That we can agree on. I have actually heard people argue the measles and polio vaccines are worse then the disease. On polio my late father would take quite the exception to that.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...id-19-n1234742

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Topher Spiro, vice president of health policy at the left-leaning Center for American Progress, has spent months researching the logistics of inoculating the public against coronavirus once a vaccine is approved.

Potential problems he’s looked at include failing to produce enough glass vials to bureaucratic snafus over who administers the vaccine to simply struggling to convince enough people that it’s safe to get vaccinated. An Associated Press poll this week found 20 percent of respondents said they did not plan to get a vaccine if it became available, with another 31 percent unsure.

“We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves and we should start preparing for the possibility we have a vaccine, but that does not mean we should stop looking for strategies to contain the virus in the meantime,” Spiro said.

Avik Roy, president of the conservative Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, co-wrote a coronavirus response framework in April that argued officials should assume for planning purposes that advances in vaccines or treatments don’t materialize.

“I spent a dozen years as an investor in biotech companies,” Roy said. “When you're close to the ground in development of novel treatments, you're acutely aware of how often they fail, how often data that looks promising in the early stages doesn't pan out in the late stages."
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