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Old 02-04-2021, 07:51 PM
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Amazing! If any of us (most of us are just pilots) had written this article or maybe one that state the reverse, "we will be done with this in 6 months", the screams of "no science," or "follow the science" would be so loud another decibel of hearing loss would have occurred.

Instead "Bloomberg," business periodical run by one of the most liberal men in the USA, gets taken seriously. What if Representative Greene had said something similar, well you know what the results would be.

Give me a break!

And this is why the control will never end.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:08 AM
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Pfizer drops application for certification in India, because India wanted local trials as opposed to evaluating the data acquired in other parts of the world.

Pfizer probably has enough backlog elsewhere to keep them busy anyhow.

Also possible there might have been some protectionism going one, since India has a locally-developed vaccine.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2A50GI
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Old 02-05-2021, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Pfizer drops application for certification in India, because India wanted local trials as opposed to evaluating the data acquired in other parts of the world.

Pfizer probably has enough backlog elsewhere to keep them busy anyhow.

Also possible there might have been some protectionism going one, since India has a locally-developed vaccine.


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Old 02-06-2021, 08:14 AM
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Sinovac approved by China.

Trials conducted in several overseas locations, with efficacy varied by region between 50-90%. Efficacy against severe covid/hospitalization/death reported 100%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2A60AY
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sinovac approved by China.

Trials conducted in several overseas locations, with efficacy varied by region between 50-90%. Efficacy against severe covid/hospitalization/death reported 100%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2A60AY

And at some point, efficacy against serious illness/death has got to be enough. We cannot have a viable economy in a country that is absolutely safe for the most vulnerable of our 330 million people.

And while I will honor the desire of the antivaxxer to not be vaccinated, I’m not going to wear a mask or social distance forever to keep them from getting this, not once everyone has had the opportunity to get immunized and not with the low mortality/morbidity of this in minor children.
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And while I will honor the desire of the antivaxxer to not be vaccinated, I’m not going to wear a mask or social distance forever to keep them from getting this, not once everyone has had the opportunity to get immunized and not with the low mortality/morbidity of this in minor children.
Man, this can't be said enough. Once everyone has had a chance to say yes or no, this **** has to end and accept what's to come.
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Old 02-07-2021, 04:11 AM
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Man, this can't be said enough. Once everyone has had a chance to say yes or no, this **** has to end and accept what's to come.
Absolutely!
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And at some point, efficacy against serious illness/death has got to be enough. We cannot have a viable economy in a country that is absolutely safe for the most vulnerable of our 330 million people.

And while I will honor the desire of the antivaxxer to not be vaccinated, I’m not going to wear a mask or social distance forever to keep them from getting this, not once everyone has had the opportunity to get immunized and not with the low mortality/morbidity of this in minor children.
Spot on. We cannot make assurances of absolute zero risk. Otherwise we should not get out of bed in the morning. Ever.

Our children are not quarantining to prevent antivaxxers from getting childhood diseases.
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Old 02-07-2021, 07:37 AM
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Even when the influenza vaccine does not prevent you from being infected with influenza (as was the case with me in 14-15 and 17-18 seasons), it still minimizes severity of disease.

While minimizing infection and transmission of SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated people is important, and limited data thus far shows SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are at least somewhat effective in that regard, the most important aspect of vaccination is preventing hospitalization and death. If virulence of SARS-CoV-2 was no worse than the common cold, nobody would particularly care how it spreads, well, like the common cold. And thankfully, all the vaccines approved around the world so far look to be quite effective at minimizing disease severity - even with the "most feared" of the variants.

FDA is going to take 22 days from Janssen's EUA application until data is reviewed by the committee, likely approved the following day or the day after that. Hopefully by the end of February that vaccine will start shipping and we can really start putting our foot on the neck of this pandemic as we move toward spring via vaccination and infection-conferred immunity, both here in the US and around the world.
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Hopefully by the end of February that vaccine will start shipping and we can really start putting our foot on the neck of this pandemic as we move toward spring via vaccination and infection-conferred immunity, both here in the US and around the world.
Y’all ain’t a particularly ‘woke’ sort of guy, are you?
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