C17B74

Hopefully your right, but the overall numbers have been managing “expectations” as definitely gains but minor at best. Hard to tell if this will be just a big spike based on being locked down (“eager to fly somewhere”/low prices) or something that can be actually used as hard data. Next year’s Spring Break number might be a better measure of recovery - domestic only of course.

*Upcoming Summer Holidays will be a good data sample as most of the “shots” will have been available to the public. Next Thanksgiving/Christmas numbers will be an even better temperature check. We are currently at the stage a year ago when everything was plummeting., except for mask envy.

FlyyGuyy

Fort Meyers beaches we're packed this week.

C17B74

Good News, but that’s Florida... Someone give us Newport Beach, Huntington Beach CA. Heck how about Virginia Beach, that hopefully is popping? Blue Beaches?

spirited

mouse house, CA v FL

CX500T

Va Beach is still cold. It doesn't really open up in full normally until April and doesn't get into full swing until May.

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Gone Flying

why would anyone go to those places, FL is a popular spring break destination and flights to MCO,FLL,TPA,RSW etc seem to be plentiful. Why would anyone go to Virginia Beach (which is still cold) or California (which was more expensive before COVID anyway and still locked down) when they could be in FL where it is 80 degrees?

CAirBear

Another 1.1 Million yesterday. I think it’s about to get very very real the next 2 weeks all the way through Labor Day. I think it is absolutely going to surprise some folks.

Millions put off spring/summer plans last year, and I believe even without a vaccine a vast majority weren’t going to do that again 2 years in a row. Now throw in vaccine rolling out, diminishing cases - it’s gonna be WILD.

Bottlen0se

I don’t know. A lot of doomers here will tell you that’s a fluke, the industry is dead forever and you are clueless.

But I agree with you.

CAirBear

LOL! Oh I’m well aware of them 😆

C17B74

True on most of what you preach, but having been to all 3, lived in all 3 of the aforementioned states - they were ALL 3 much more busy during Spring Break. I get it, CA and VA or even the Carolina’s included weren’t Club La Vela or Spinnaker’s, Tampa, etc. by any means but Hurricane Michael took care of some of that as well as local laws so MCO, FFL, TPA, etc good choices.

That being said, with those Lockdowns you mentioned - flooding these places probably a tad or a lot more than normal and Super Cheap Tickets $40-$100 max booked just a month ago plus the itch to get out en masse = skewed data. Hopefully these low fare trash bag in hand flyers will disappear when sustainable pricing can actually keep them out.

Once again, there’s no doubt leisure travel will come back and be great again, just not how folks mentioned 1 year ago with “roaring back” “charging back” “just a hiccup” “bounce back” or whatever. Maybe the “roar” will be when the vaccine makes its final rounds, now that makes sense and bring it on fast.

I would be more concerned where the plateau on the business side of travel lies. People want to get out, awesome. Business is business.

Note: Industry is not dead, just slow going and perhaps different for a bit longer. Sooner these states start pulling their heads out of the sand the better.