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GogglesPisano 08-25-2020 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3116099)
Flu kills people, too.

Non sequitur.

When was the last influenza pandemic that threatened to gut the entire airline industry?

Flyfalcons 08-25-2020 02:35 PM

The economic impacts have nothing to do with the medical fact that people die from the flu every year to the amount of tens of thousands. So why haven't you been asking people to wear a mask and get vaccinated during flu season? Or are your arguments simply out of recent self-interest?

GogglesPisano 08-25-2020 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3116127)
The economic impacts have nothing to do with the medical fact that people die from the flu every year to the amount of tens of thousands. So why haven't you been asking people to wear a mask and get vaccinated during flu season? Or are your arguments simply out of recent self-interest?

1) Yes, people die of the flu every year.

2) Not on the scale we are seeing with COVID.

3) The affects we are seeing on the economy — whether justified or not, whether fostered by media fear-mongering or not — are putting our livelihoods on the chopping block.

4) If a vaccine could help mitigate this effect — and reduce their overall infection rate — I see it as a good thing.

It’s all about degrees of risk.

NE_Pilot 08-25-2020 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ERJFO (Post 3116097)
They exist to interpret the constitution.

Where exactly is that in the Constitution, that the Supreme Court exists to interpret the Constitution?

SonicFlyer 08-25-2020 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by ERJFO (Post 3116097)
They exist to interpret the constitution.

Actually that is a myth. The Constitution doesn't need to be interpreted. It means what it says at the time it was written down. SCOTUS is there to decide if something fits into the Constitution, not the other way around.

Seneca Pilot 08-25-2020 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3116151)
Actually that is a myth. The Constitution doesn't need to be interpreted. It means what it says at the time it was written down. SCOTUS is there to decide if something fits into the Constitution, not the other way around.

Correct.

The constitution is very exact and restricts the federal government to very few powers. It is not open to interpretation but over the years the government and judiciary have attempted to persuade the population that it is open to interpretation in order to expand the power of both parties.

ERJFO 08-25-2020 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3116151)
Actually that is a myth. The Constitution doesn't need to be interpreted. It means what it says at the time it was written down. SCOTUS is there to decide if something fits into the Constitution, not the other way around.

I don't disagree that the role of the Supreme Court is to invalidate legislation or executive actions which, in the Court’s considered judgment, conflict with the Constitution.

However, it's not as simple as you describe. It is open to the interpretation of the justices... Even the 9 Justices often don't agree on what the Constitution means at times...

NE_Pilot 08-26-2020 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by ERJFO (Post 3116378)
I don't disagree that the role of the Supreme Court is to invalidate legislation or executive actions which, in the Court’s considered judgment, conflict with the Constitution.

However, it's not as simple as you describe. It is open to the interpretation of the justices... Even the 9 Justices often don't agree on what the Constitution means at times...

Think about it for a minute. If the Constitution were open to the interpretation of the Supreme Court that would give unlimited power to the Court. They could change the Constitution without having to go through the amendment process. Such power would render the whole Constitution meaningless.

Look through the Constitution and find where it gives this power of interpretation to the Court. Is it there? If not, where did this power come from?

rickair7777 08-26-2020 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3116183)
Correct.

The constitution is very exact and restricts the federal government to very few powers. It is not open to interpretation but over the years the government and judiciary have attempted to persuade the population that it is open to interpretation in order to expand the power of both parties.

Not unreasonable, but the only way to strictly limit constitutional interpretation is to vote accordingly. Or revolt. The people don't seem that concerned, either way.

SonicFlyer 08-26-2020 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by ERJFO (Post 3116378)
However, it's not as simple as you describe. It is open to the interpretation of the justices... Even the 9 Justices often don't agree on what the Constitution means at times...

By your logic the SCOTUS is infallible... which is simply not the case.


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