GateAgent007

You give yourself too much credit. You just ask lame questions and giggle to yourself. You're not calling out anyone. But hey, whatever makes you feel better. You keep up the good fight, asking those pointless rhetorical questions.

Seneca Pilot

Those countries have almost no theft too, but I digress.

It is an intellectually empty argument to attempt to make the case that what happened there was anything other than the fault of the parents making the decision to illegally enter the country. There is a legal process that will protect the family unit but it takes time and jumping the line is so much easier, unless you get caught.


Boss is here I have to go fly.

GateAgent007

It happened in the Obama administration to 45 families for 7 days. They reversed separation as soon as they realized it was happening.
The Trump administration did it indefinitely to 15,000+ families. I know you suck at concepts like math, but 15,000 is greater than 50. 600+ children are now permanently lost in the system.
Not excusing the 45 families. But if Obama was bad, then Trump is 33,333% worse.

90k is just a plain lie.

Please try harder. You have such high expectations of yourself. I'd hate for you to let you down.

All Bizniz

Whistling pass the graveyard, huh?

Do you think the people in his OWN administration who called out the BS, looked at the policy in a vacuum?

Don't you think that they considered the fact that the families did cross the border illegally, and yet still came away with the opinion that the response was too cruel and draconian?

C'mon man... (now a Biden chuckle) lol

furloughfuntime

It is an intellectually empty argument to ignore the fact that thousands of these families were fleeing persecution in their home countries where they could not afford to wait for years. It is also an intellectually empty argument to blame the parents for being torn from their kids when they made an attempt to cross to save their kids' lives in many cases.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute. You live somewhere and there is a credible and imminent threat to you and your family's lives. Your choices are to submit the paperwork in an expensive, inaccessible, and time-consuming process that takes years, or you can protect your family immediately by seeking asylum. If it were my kids, I would do anything to protect them.

This was a needlessly cruel policy. Your point about it having to do with children not being allowed in adult facilities is also patently wrong. Children were kept in adult facilities; they were just separated from their parents in order to send a cruel message to those who thought America would offer them safety.

How anyone can rationalize such a needlessly cruel and abjectly unjust policy is baffling to me.

NE_Pilot

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/u...port-says.html

NE_Pilot

Your comment begs to differ with your backtracking:
Looks like you let the veil slip there and allowed your true inner bigot to shine.

All Bizniz

That article is talking about the 90,000 kids that beginning in 2013, SUDDENLY started showing up UNACCOMPANIED at the border.

There was a good faith effort to place them in safe homes, but about 2 doz or so (even 1 is too many, but real is real) slipped through the cracks because of incomplete background checks.

That's a failure in the system, not a deliberate policy decision to "fr*ck" anyone over. POTUS made a considered and deliberate decision to separate babies and toddlers from their mothers.

You're comparing apples to orangutans.

NE_Pilot

You are clearly missing the point. The previous administration made the mistake of releasing children without conducting background checks or verifying if the people were actually family. They also failed to follow up on the 90,000 children they placed, meaning potentially more ended up with human traffickers.

”Families” that arrive at the border are not always real families. Children have been and continue to be used as a way to get into the country illegally. What should one do if they cannot verify that the child is actually related to the person claiming to be family?

Your claim on the intent of a policy is baseless.

GateAgent007

The spin is top notch from you this morning. Is it 12 or is it 90,000? The article wasn't clear so it must be 90,000.

Regarding the other comment, the dude wants to emigrate to a very different foreign country. I couldn't help notice the irony as he discriminates against undocumented immigrants. No bigotry on my end, just emphasizing the juxtaposition of his hypocrisy.

I'm bored with your spin and your bad faith debate. Don't you have anything else?