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Regularguy 05-06-2021 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires (Post 3231783)

I never brought up Pelosi, BLM, AOC, or whatever else you are raving about. You threw that out there in a panicked deflection after getting called out for saying that You don’t think Jan 6 was so bad.

You are really something and I stand on my comment about your ability to read and comprehend. Amazing isn't it when a narrative gets so ingrained in person's head they can't see beyond their nose. It's call being myopic in their views. If you noticed I never wrote or implied the Jan 6 invasion of the Capital Building "wasn't so bad." I clearly pointed out when compared to the hatred, destruction, death and out right verbal attacks by certain Congress women and others, those events were not only equal to but greater attacks on our Nation and its very core. Something you deny!

And just to get the record straight no one "panicked" except for you. Especially when you bring up tired old cliches to "deflect" the real issues at hand.

Let's make this more clear, people who have an opinions like you about the past year of hate and destruction within our Country are major contributors to the dangers we face, both physically and culturally real.

But in the end you will just call names, use some sort foul language or something similar bringing more hate and destruction to the world.

Moving on, go fly your airplane.

Excargodog 05-06-2021 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires (Post 3231806)
And white supremacists are a greater threat that BLM
and Antifa. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usn...%3fcontext=amp

The civil war was worse than the civil unrest last year.

Does that mean all of those other things get a pass? Or that we should make it seem ok for this to happen ever few years? If a hijacker took over your plane and one of them and an FA were hurt but once they got control of the flight deck the just left because they didn’t have a plan, would you just say, “no worries, this isn’t the worst hijacking and you stopped so it’s fine?”




You exaggerating the importance of a demonstration because of a few weirdos tagging on to it would be as stupid as me claiming that ANTIFA is a legitimate threat to the overthrow of the US. There will always be idiots and thugs.


From the WaPo::


D.C. medical examiner releases cause of death for four people who died during Capitol riot

A mob tries to break through a police barrier at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. (John Minchillo/AP)
By
Peter Hermann
and
Steve Thompson

April 7, 2021 at 4:24 p.m. PDTTwo civilians who died during the violent Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol died of natural causes, and a third succumbed to amphetamine intoxication, according to the D.C. medical examiner’s office.

A fourth person, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, who was fatally shot by a Capitol police officer inside the Capitol, was struck by a bullet to her front left shoulder, the medical examiner said in a statement.
The cause of death for a fifth person, Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick, who collapsed after confronting rioters and died Jan. 7, remains pending

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021...isable=upscaleA U.S. Capitol Police officer holding a program for the ceremony memorializing Officer Brian D. Sicknick in the Capitol Rotunda on Feb. 3.Credit...Pool photo by Demetrius Freeman
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018...thumbLarge.pngBy Adam Goldman

April 19, 2021WASHINGTON — Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the U.S. Capitol Police had multiple strokes hours after sparring with a pro-Trump mob during the Jan. 6 riot and died of natural causes, Washington’s medical examiner said on Monday
So in the end, we had one person shot, one overdosed, and two civilians and one cop dying of natural causes.

By comparison, in the 1968 riots in DC, 13 people died, either burned alive, beaten to death, or shot by police with 1097 injured and 7000 arrested.

The “insurrection’ on 6 Jan was scarcely a threat to the nation or the government and you lose all credibility when you try to make it so.

FlewUnderWires 05-06-2021 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3231819)
You exaggerating the importance of a demonstration because of a few weirdos tagging on to it would be as stupid as me claiming that ANTIFA is a legitimate threat to the overthrow of the US. There will always be idiots and thugs.


From the WaPo::





So in the end, we had one person shot, one overdosed, and two civilians and one cop dying of natural causes.

By comparison, in the 1968 riots in DC, 13 people died, either burned alive, beaten to death, or shot by police with 1097 injured and 7000 arrested.

The “insurrection’ on 6 Jan was scarcely a threat to the nation or the government and you lose all credibility when you try to make it so.

You forgot a couple blue lives. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-officer-suicides-capitol-riot/2021/02/11/94804ee2-665c-11eb-886d-5264d4ceb46d_story.html%3foutputType=amp

And I don’t care that it was unsuccessful, short lived or that events decades to centuries ago were worse it shouldn’t have happened or been encouraged or allowed to happen. And I’m amazed that pilots are making excuses for it and downplaying it.

Gordie H 05-06-2021 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3231819)
The “insurrection’ on 6 Jan was scarcely a threat to the nation or the government and you lose all credibility when you try to make it so.

Except it wasn't a one day thing (tip of the iceberg)....it's not good when a majority of one of our two parties thinks the election was stolen.

Excargodog 05-06-2021 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires (Post 3231824)
You forgot a couple blue lives. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

And I don’t care that it was unsuccessful, short lived or that events decades to centuries ago were worse it shouldn’t have happened or been encouraged or allowed to happen. And I’m amazed that pilots are making excuses for it and downplaying it.

Two cops suicided? And you blame that on a riot? More cops die of suicide annually than die in the line of duty. And you are claiming the rioting killed them?


https://www.officer.com/command-hq/s...uicide-in-2019

That’s an even more pathetic exaggeration than inferring the 6 Jan “insurrection” actually was a serious threat to the government.

And I’m as immune to shaming as you apparently are to common sense. You can keep trying - I suppose - like I keep trying to throttle you back from high dudgeon to simply making sense, but I imagine we will both be equally disappointed.

Excargodog 05-06-2021 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Gordie H (Post 3231825)
Except it wasn't a one day thing (tip of the iceberg)....it's not good when a majority of one of our two parties thinks the election was stolen.

I’d agree. It would seem appropriate to put in place better procedures to reassure public confidence in the results. Picture ID might be helpful. We don’t let people drive a car or fly on an airliner without one.

FlewUnderWires 05-06-2021 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3231827)
Two cops suicided? And you blame that on a riot? More cops die of suicide annually than die in the line of duty. And you are claiming the rioting killed them?


https://www.officer.com/command-hq/s...uicide-in-2019

That’s an even more pathetic exaggeration than inferring the 6 Jan “insurrection” actually was a serious threat to the government.

And I’m as immune to shaming as you apparently are to common sense. You can keep trying - I suppose - like I keep trying to throttle you back from high dudgeon to simply making sense, but I imagine we will both be equally disappointed.

If suicides from 2020 can be blamed on Covid restrictions then yeah. I could imagine having to fight fellow Americans trying to invade the Capitol could be pretty mentally impactful.

Interestingly enough and coming full circle to the original topic, Covid was the leading killer of law enforcement last year.

And just because it was a perfect example of republicans not having any actual plan or doing anything once they are in power doesn’t change the fact that they over ran and building. Giving up and only leading to a few deaths doesn’t downplay its significance nearly as much as you think it does.

Gordie H 05-06-2021 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3231829)
I’d agree. It would seem appropriate to put in place better procedures to reassure public confidence in the results. Picture ID might be helpful. We don’t let people drive a car or fly on an airliner without one.

That’s cute but nothing to do with it. As an aside, sure – picture ID is fine by me.

IF DT was shunned (by politicians, voters, etc.) after what he did and there wasn't a whitewash attempt, I wouldn’t be as concerned. But that’s not what it is…remains to be seen how all this plays out.

Excargodog 05-06-2021 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires (Post 3231832)
Giving up and only leading to a few deaths doesn’t downplay its significance nearly as much as you think it does.

It doesn’t downplay the significance AT ALL. Except for hysterics like yourself, there never was any significance. Like the guy who flew the Cessna 150 onto the White House lawn in 1994 killing himself, while I certainly don’t endorse his actions, in terms of threat to the Republic, the event was trivial.

block30 05-06-2021 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3231608)
If a crowd of BLM protesters had invaded the Capitol in a violent, treasonous act, your people would be screaming for martial law. But because the rebels sported Confederate flags and MAGA caps, it was somehow OK. Please. The hypocrisy.

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