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Old 01-11-2021, 02:11 PM
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That’s not the point and you know it. Nice try.
Seemed a pretty relevant question given the text you yourself quoted and what you yourself typed out in your reply.
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Old 01-11-2021, 02:40 PM
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What about all the videos of people going back to normal months ago? Movie theaters, night clubs, mass gatherings, no more mandatory masks. Have you seen those? What’s worse, trapping some tenants for a few days so that country can reopen, or 350k dead? They did offer food delivery after all. Also been validated by Chinese coming here.
The fact that you even think this is a serious question is beyond asinine and quite scary.
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Old 01-11-2021, 03:07 PM
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I call BS on this. It’s certainly possible to have an open country and low cases in the US, there was just no leadership early on or at least a plan. Everyone for themselves didn’t workout too well.
Cross cultural comparisons are always fraught...

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Old 01-12-2021, 07:43 AM
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In the case of California, more stringent attempts to suppress COVID have made their situation worse. They’ve had a much more rapid increase than other states with much less restrictions (like Texas and Florida).

Notice how even with significantly different mitigation/suppression and economic strategies, the big 3 states ended up in the same place. It’s just that California did it by overloading their hospitals while destroying their economy.

I don’t see any empirical evidence that show suppressing the virus is effective. In California’s case they seem to be much worse off for the path they have taken.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:02 AM
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In the case of California, more stringent attempts to suppress COVID have made their situation worse. They’ve had a much more rapid increase than other states with much less restrictions (like Texas and Florida).

Notice how even with significantly different mitigation/suppression and economic strategies, the big 3 states ended up in the same place. It’s just that California did it by overloading their hospitals while destroying their economy.

I don’t see any empirical evidence that show suppressing the virus is effective. In California’s case they seem to be much worse off for the path they have taken.
According to Knob it's simply based on the weather.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:47 AM
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According to Knob it's simply based on the weather.
And they should be welded into their houses. Food will eventually come, maybe.
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In the case of California, more stringent attempts to suppress COVID have made their situation worse. They’ve had a much more rapid increase than other states with much less restrictions (like Texas and Florida).

Notice how even with significantly different mitigation/suppression and economic strategies, the big 3 states ended up in the same place. It’s just that California did it by overloading their hospitals while destroying their economy.

I don’t see any empirical evidence that show suppressing the virus is effective. In California’s case they seem to be much worse off for the path they have taken.
Indeed, if you accept the ORIGINAL mission objective, that of ‘flattening the curve so as to not overload the ICUs’, both Texas and Florida were clearly more successful than California.

And right now the rates of infection and California are both lower than that of California, but appear to be declining as well:




While California is still rising and Gavin Newsom is in danger of being recalled.

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Old 01-12-2021, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
What about all the videos of people going back to normal months ago? Movie theaters, night clubs, mass gatherings, no more mandatory masks. Have you seen those? What’s worse, trapping some tenants for a few days so that country can reopen, or 350k dead? They did offer food delivery after all. Also been validated by Chinese coming here.
You either are a Chinese propaganda troll or you have fallen for the BS of their online troll army hook, line, and sinker.
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And they should be welded into their houses. Food will eventually come, maybe.
True.

But it is CA after all and the weather is nice. They should just be able to grow their own.
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter View Post
In the case of California, more stringent attempts to suppress COVID have made their situation worse. They’ve had a much more rapid increase than other states with much less restrictions (like Texas and Florida).

Notice how even with significantly different mitigation/suppression and economic strategies, the big 3 states ended up in the same place. It’s just that California did it by overloading their hospitals while destroying their economy.

I don’t see any empirical evidence that show suppressing the virus is effective. In California’s case they seem to be much worse off for the path they have taken.
This is completely not true. The virus was taking a huge toll before any restrictions were put up. That’s why they placed restrictions. The virus didn’t explode because there are restrictions. In fact it would get even more out of control if there aren’t any. But if people aren’t following it then is it really because of those restrictions? You’re saying somehow if there were no restrictions there would be less cases? Does that make any sense? CA, Texas and Florida have been the worst states in this. CA is higher because it’s more populated, but Florida and Texas are close second and third and then there’s the rest of the less populated states.
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