Dr. Osterholm
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I can definitely agree with than. I just take issue when the success of places like Texas are attributed to the bravery of reopening and unmasking rather than the same concept of geographically sporadic rises and falls. I don’t think the answer to that is to do nothing and let viruses virus. And now with vaccines it is harder to attribute credit and blame.
You may think we can stop viruses from virus in, but we can’t stop people from being people, and both sides of the political spectrum have politicized this, making a tough job of overcoming vaccine skepticism even worse. A minority of people in this country are adequately vaccinated against all the common things that have been around for decades that have vaccines which have a good track record and provide long lasting immunity. And most other countries @re even worse. If you seriously believed at the outset that vaccines were going to be a quick fix or an easy sell, you were hopelessly naive.
The real question was how optimally we could approach this issue, and that really required a more global measurement than just a body count, including long term effects of economic and educational factors. Both parties made that more difficult, as did all the name-calling by the partisans on both sides. But history tells us that too was to be expected, part of people being people, I guess.
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But how much effort do you think that took from the White House? An afternoon? An hour?
Operation Warp Speed required the combined effort from the White House of saying, "Yes. Do that."
It was a critical green light. But it cost nothing and anyone would have made the same call.
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Are certain people intentionally forgetting how several governors either totally blew it or intentionally screwed up the nursing home response to covid-19? I bet you'd care a helluva lot more if an elderly relative was murdered...
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I can definitely agree with than. I just take issue when the success of places like Texas are attributed to the bravery of reopening and unmasking rather than the same concept of geographically sporadic rises and falls. I don’t think the answer to that is to do nothing and let viruses virus. And now with vaccines it is harder to attribute credit and blame.
The virus hasn’t been all that unpredictable. Without herd immunity it doesn’t matter if your area has low cases, they’ll be the next hot spot. The worse thing we can all do is analyze things by denying that we’re still in it. Declaring victory over it prematurely only makes things worse. Until we reach herd immunity, the virus is gonna virus and they’ll make you wear that chin warmer longer.
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The virus hasn’t been all that unpredictable. Without herd immunity it doesn’t matter if your area has low cases, they’ll be the next hot spot. The worse thing we can all do is analyze things by denying that we’re still in it. Declaring victory over it prematurely only makes things worse. Until we reach herd immunity, the virus is gonna virus and they’ll make you wear that chin warmer longer.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/trump-says-he-thinks-us-could-start-distributing-a-coronavirus-vaccine-in-october.html
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If Trump gets the blame from you for his poor handling of the virus early on, then he must also receive credit from you for how well the vaccine development and distribution has gone - since it was his administration's game plan (laughed at by the Left and media, btw).
You can't have it both ways, Sheila.
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