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Old 07-28-2021, 04:01 PM
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So the study the CDC used to flip flop again on mask mandates didn’t pass peer review and is based on a vaccine used in India that is not approved in the US. But because of “science” even us vaccinated folks have to wear a mask. Anyone who still takes the CDC and Fauci seriously really needs to get their head examined. It’s ok to admit you were wrong and severely duped many, many times over.
I don't have to wear a mask in CA after being vaccinated (honor system).

If you've had covid you could reasonably skip the vaccine on that basis, wait for the data and see how long natural vs. vaccine immunity lasts, and how consistent natural immunity it... vaccine induced immunity is normally more consistent.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:05 PM
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To be fair, the people in “charge” were against the vaccine before they were for it.
And the previous administration lead the vaccine charge, and put the US far ahead of many other large nations in that regard. Lot's of people (both sides) seem to have done a 180 on their position back in Jan.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:19 PM
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And the previous administration lead the vaccine charge, and put the US far ahead of many other large nations in that regard. Lot's of people (both sides) seem to have done a 180 on their position back in Jan.
Its absolutely insane how political it’s been from day 1. I went back and saw some very strong clips from our VP at how we can’t trust a vaccine development that was overseen by the last admin. Now that same person is begging people to take it. It’s all just noise but sometimes it’s hard to tune it out.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:31 PM
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do you have a link regarding the study is more what I was asking. I'd like to read it.
Do your own homework.
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman View Post
Do your own homework.

Dude, I'm not being antagonistic. I literally can't find any links about the study you're referencing. I'd like to see it so I can wave it in the faces of people who want me to wear a mask. If you've got a link, plop it here.

All I can find is that the data the CDC based their newest blind dart toss on is not released yet (trust us...we're the government...we'd never lie to you, except about the target for herd immunity, rising case rates among adolescents, don't wear masks to prevent a run on masks, wear masks except my emails say wearing masks is useless, we didn't fund gain of function but we did fund chimeric virus research, etc).
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Just an anecdote - (but its my anecdote) take it for what its worth. I had a confirmed covid case before vaccines were available.

Given that your average garden variety pre-covid corona virus gives natural immunity for 6-9 months (the exception being SARS 1 which gives natural immunity for years and is the most similar). I figure the best course is to wait and see, at least for now - two reasons, 1. let people high risk people that don't have natural immunity have priority and 2. allow more time for data to come out.

In that time - Delta variant arrives. I had prolonged exposure to individuals, two of whom showed symptoms and tested positive the next day. Others that were there got sick, I did not. Rinse, wash, repeat 2 1/2 weeks later and I get the same result. Its just one data point - but my personal experience says prior covid protected me against delta variant at the 8 month mark.
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3270513[/url]]Just an anecdote - (but its my anecdote) take it for what its worth. I had a confirmed covid case before vaccines were available.

Given that your average garden variety pre-covid corona virus gives natural immunity for 6-9 months (the exception being SARS 1 which gives natural immunity for years and is the most similar). I figure the best course is to wait and see, at least for now - two reasons, 1. let people high risk people that don't have natural immunity have priority and 2. allow more time for data to come out.

In that time - Delta variant arrives. I had prolonged exposure to individuals, two of whom showed symptoms and tested positive the next day. Others that were there got sick, I did not. Rinse, wash, repeat 2 1/2 weeks later and I get the same result. Its just one data point - but my personal experience says prior covid protected me against delta variant at the 8 month mark.
My experience and my family’s is identical. I have been directly exposed since testing positive and have not been infected. Eight months later I’m still testing positive for antibodies.
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Originally Posted by Mordi View Post
Just an anecdote - (but its my anecdote) take it for what its worth. I had a confirmed covid case before vaccines were available.

Given that your average garden variety pre-covid corona virus gives natural immunity for 6-9 months (the exception being SARS 1 which gives natural immunity for years and is the most similar). I figure the best course is to wait and see, at least for now - two reasons, 1. let people high risk people that don't have natural immunity have priority and 2. allow more time for data to come out.

In that time - Delta variant arrives. I had prolonged exposure to individuals, two of whom showed symptoms and tested positive the next day. Others that were there got sick, I did not. Rinse, wash, repeat 2 1/2 weeks later and I get the same result. Its just one data point - but my personal experience says prior covid protected me against delta variant at the 8 month mark.
Same. And the 6-9 months of immunity oft qouted is just where the research study ended and they stopped looking. I don't know how many times I've heard people reference "yeah but your immunity only lasts 3 months (then 6, then 8)." Its like natural immunity must have this disclaimer, but vaccine immunity duration is somehow not a concern. Very tired of natural immunity being viewed as a threat to vaccines instead of as an ally.
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I have yet to come across an anti-Covid vax pilot who hasn’t already gotten Covid. Every single one claims to have had Covid and as a result, natural immunities to it. Every single one.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I have yet to come across an anti-Covid vax pilot who hasn’t already gotten Covid. Every single one claims to have had Covid and as a result, natural immunities to it. Every single one.
Not surprising really. As time goes by more and more unvaccinated people are going to catch COVID. Most of them healthy enough to pass a flight physical will wind up shrugging it off and recovering without too much difficulty. Some won’t.
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