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Old 09-30-2021, 04:09 PM
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Wow. I don’t know if you meant to imply Nurses are ignorant moronic maids, but you did.

Did you ever spend any time in a hospital or a infusion center as a patient? I doubt you did. You would probably have more respect for nurses if you did.

Acknowledging that it is possible that a rushed to market vaccine that (depending on your age and the risk group you fall in) you might not need (if you believe in math and science, that is what the data shows)…? Epecially if you have already been infected? That shows an ability to consider risk/reward and to think critically. Those are traits I would rather encourage in human beings, rather that blind obedience to the ever changing consensus of journalists, politicians, and demonstrably fallible “experts”
How come all of the DOCS aren't quitting? You didn't answer that, and it's the million dollar question...
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Old 09-30-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu View Post
And we're forced to wear pants out in public too, or you might lose your job, can't travel, or assemble either.

Stupid society with their stupid rules. Stop whining.
"Society".

Given the racial demographics of the vaccine hesitant (not me, BTW), one might almost call your ideal society incredibly racist.

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Old 09-30-2021, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum View Post
Great list DBR.

You forgot uncle joe telling us once he is prez we just wear mask for 100 days. that's it. no more.

that was over 8 months ago. here we are. except in FL. Were at least for 17+days of the month I live in freedom.
Yeah, I can't believe I'm going to have to jump the gun and commit to Operation "Move to FL, Commute to ATL" a decade early. Current governor is based.

Like 50% of other ATL A's. (?-ish). The jumpseats of many a MD-80/717 are cursed with all the old-man smell from the ATL commuters.


Then again, FL was THIS CLOSE (49.6% vs. 49.2%) to being blessed with the benevolent leadership of Andrew Gillum.

Not to judge or anything, but getting caught drowning in your own excreta, whilst overdosing on crystal meth, and paying for your own personal orgy with male "sex workers" (sans-wife), seems like a less-than-ideal governor for pandemic leadership. Hell of a story (with PICTURES!!!, but ya gotta go international, because reasons).

"Florida Man" is a meme for a reason. It's on the cusp of become another fantastic utopia run by very highly credentialed "TOP MEN" like CA, VA, or NY.

Also, trust the media. Because CNN/MSNBC was all over this just like Gerry Hart. Right? RIGHT?!?

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Old 09-30-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu View Post
Move those goalposts a little more.
EUA didn't cut it.
FDA approval didn't cut it.

And I guarantee a long term study won't cut it for you. Your resistance has nothing to do with safety of the vaccine. This is a culture war. And you've staked your place.
I took the vaccine. But you cannot argue it has had the level of testing that other vaccines have had.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
It’s a big world out there:



and that doesn’t even count animal reservoirs.

Anyone who thinks this won’t become endemic might as well believe in the tooth fairy. In fact, it already IS endemic.
Reminds me how long did it take to eradicate smallpox? Where were the last remaining strongholds? Third world countries. Yep.

Good news is more third world areas have come out of abject poverty, now considered second world / developing since the smallpox eradication. If I recall the numbers, the world has gone from 40% extremely poor to 10% extremely poor in the last three decades. I believe that cutoff definition is less that $1.90 per day per person.
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Old 09-30-2021, 07:54 PM
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How come all of the DOCS aren't quitting? You didn't answer that, and it's the million dollar question...
They are not usually employed by the hospitals. They are independent contractors or part of smaller groups.
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Originally Posted by MIddle3rd View Post
They are not usually employed by the hospitals. They are independent contractors or part of smaller groups.
True in some cases, but they could have their ability to see patients at that hospital revoked. Same as throwing them off property.

Secondly, a lot of hospitals are using hospitalists as the attending physician, instead of having your primary care doctor see you in the hospital. There also are Emergency Room physicians. Are they part of a group of independent contractors or are they direct employees?
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MIddle3rd View Post
They are not usually employed by the hospitals. They are independent contractors or part of smaller groups.
Not true, most are actual employees these days. Some outside docs have staff privileges, but they are of course subject to the same vaccination requirements as anyone else who works in the hospital. Some state mandates apply to ALL healthcare professionals, period.

The federal mandate applies to all workers and facilities who get medicare, etc funding... so there may be a few high-end plastic surgery clinics in Beverly Hills who are exempt from that.
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:45 AM
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True in some cases, but they could have their ability to see patients at that hospital revoked. Same as throwing them off property.
Yes, losing staff privileges is a career-ender. That's been a contentious issue in the past, when hospitals revoke staff privilege without any sort of due process.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Yes, losing staff privileges is a career-ender. That's been a contentious issue in the past, when hospitals revoke staff privilege without any sort of due process.
Then maybe you just answered your own question. Are nurses different? I can’t imagine *most* doctors are spending hours a day reading research papers. So doctors and nurses both have the same antidotal evidence doctors just have more to lose.
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