Possible New Variant that may defeat vaccine
12-12-2021, 10:48 AM
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From the WSJ (paywall), Israeli study is reporting that...
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
12-12-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
From the WSJ (paywall), Israeli study is reporting that...
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
12-12-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
From the WSJ (paywall), Israeli study is reporting that...
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
So why the contradictory information??
Misinformation that must be silenced!!
12-12-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
From the WSJ (paywall), Israeli study is reporting that...
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
- Third pfizer shot protects against severe outcomes with omicron.
- Two-shot regimen is NOT effective against omicron after 5-6 months. Still partially effective against delta.
Pfizer is developing an omicron-specific booster, shooting for availability next March.
12-12-2021, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
I am SHOCKED that Pfizer studies show the need to buy another drug made by Pfizer.
12-12-2021, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
has there been any severe cases wrt omicron?
12-13-2021, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Some. It looks anecdotally like a lot less than previous variants, but nobodies published numbers claimed as definitive yet. Should be soon.
On Monday, the UK Health Security Agency confirmed 10 people had been admitted to hospital in England with the Omicron variant.
Their ages ranged from 18 to 85 years old and the majority had received two doses of a Covid vaccination, the agency said.
There have been 4,713 confirmed cases of the Omicron variant across the UK, it added, after 1,576 new cases were reported on Monday.
Their ages ranged from 18 to 85 years old and the majority had received two doses of a Covid vaccination, the agency said.
There have been 4,713 confirmed cases of the Omicron variant across the UK, it added, after 1,576 new cases were reported on Monday.
Further no will no doubt follow. Two immunizations clearly isn’t stopping it though - apparently not even slowing it down.
12-13-2021, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The UK NHS has put out some early figures:
with 4713 confirmed cases (and milder infections are usually under reported) and only ten hospitalizations (and apparently now one death) it seems at first assessment a good deal less pathogenic than either alpha or delta, but until you are allowed to look at specific risk factors and demographics of the more severely infected it’s hard to say anything definitive. If the one fatality was the 85 year old who - just coincidentally - happened to be five foot two inches and weighed 27 stone and had dementia, that might not mean much in terms of severity. If it was an 18 year old Olympic bicyclist - well, that could be bad.
Further no will no doubt follow. Two immunizations clearly isn’t stopping it though - apparently not even slowing it down.
with 4713 confirmed cases (and milder infections are usually under reported) and only ten hospitalizations (and apparently now one death) it seems at first assessment a good deal less pathogenic than either alpha or delta, but until you are allowed to look at specific risk factors and demographics of the more severely infected it’s hard to say anything definitive. If the one fatality was the 85 year old who - just coincidentally - happened to be five foot two inches and weighed 27 stone and had dementia, that might not mean much in terms of severity. If it was an 18 year old Olympic bicyclist - well, that could be bad.
Further no will no doubt follow. Two immunizations clearly isn’t stopping it though - apparently not even slowing it down.
But there is tons of data highlighting that it is slowed down immensely with a booster. That’s where we are.
12-13-2021, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer2
But there is tons of data highlighting that it is slowed down immensely with a RECENT booster. That’s where we are.
Fixed it for you. The longevity of the partial protection provided by a booster has yet to be fully demonstrated. I’m not anti booster per se, just trying to be accurate.
usalem Post 
Health & Wellness
Published: DECEMBER 11, 2021 20:00
Updated: DECEMBER 13, 2021 05:22
An illustrative photo of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.
(photo credit: MARC ISRAEL SELLEM/THE JERUSALEM POST)
The neutralizing ability of even three shots of the Pfizer corona vaccine is four times less against the Omicron than the Delta variant, according to researchers at Sheba Medical Center.
Health & Wellness'3 shots Pfizer COVID vax 4x less effective against Omicron than Delta'
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMANPublished: DECEMBER 11, 2021 20:00
Updated: DECEMBER 13, 2021 05:22
An illustrative photo of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.
(photo credit: MARC ISRAEL SELLEM/THE JERUSALEM POST)
Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis says country could recommend boosters as early as three months after second shot
The neutralizing ability of even three shots of the Pfizer corona vaccine is four times less against the Omicron than the Delta variant, according to researchers at Sheba Medical Center.
Last edited by Excargodog; 12-13-2021 at 07:59 AM.
12-13-2021, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Fixed it for you. The longevity of the partial protection provided by a booster has yet to be fully demonstrated. I’m not anti booster per se, just trying to be accurate.
I don’t disagree. Thanks for pointing that out.
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