cougar

I posted this link almost two years ago. Still the most detailed explanation I’ve read. Seems the consensus is shifting.

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-...-box-at-wuhan/

Excargodog

i don’t think the “consensus” among those who have ever actually worked in a BSL-3 or BSL-4 lab has changed one iota. I think the propaganda by those who wanted the consensus to be suppressed, for whatever reason (relations with PRC. Cover up GOF research? Fear it would bring further restrictions on future GOF research? Fear it would cause further more costly restrictions on ANY BSL-3/4 research, facilities, or personnel? Fear someone would claim this was a deliberate release by China?) is starting to breakdown and the reality revealed.

Red Forman

Now even the FBI is claiming it most likely came from the lab.

vaxedtothemax

Quite literally, almost every "conspiracy theory" turned out true. Except of course micro chips. Even early therapeutics turned out useful in one form or another. Personally, I'm glad to find out who was dumb enough to believe half of Fauci's crap. More than willing and glad to have lost those people as "friends".

chihuahua

Based on how nonchalantly he answered that question, they knew from the start. They just let the media lie about it the whole time. Anyone with a lick of sense knew it came from a lab all along. Plenty of non-MSM media outlets presented the evidence started in 2020. They were just banned from the public discourse.

rickair7777

The media didn't lie they just didn't know (that one dude with connections to the lab probably did lie IMO).

Being spring-loaded to a lab leak initially was a ridiculous position, since nobody knew... wanting so, so badly to believe in a conspiracy is not the same as knowing.

Since billions of viruses have vectored out of nature for billions of years, wet market is actually the Occam's Razor presumption. The real world is not a Michael Crichton novel.

I said from day one that they needed to investigate ALL possible avenues because the consequences of getting it wrong are too drastic to screw up. Political preconceptions have no place in that because that won't help prevent the next one.

I'm more inclined to the lab leak theory now based on the bug's behavior over time... it's a been a bit more tenacious over several years than one might have expected for a natural bug, which supports the GoF theory. Not conclusive, but hints at that. They still need to investigate it properly.

Excargodog

Come on Rick, even Jon Stewart knew. And the Wuhan’s lab has now had three years to refuse to cooperate and hide evidence.

Excargodog

https://youtu.be/gIl7Rka4630

vaxedtothemax

Ahhh.. following the new talking point from MSNBC. It was all Trump's fault for Liberals lying for 2 yrs. Got it. Yeah I saw those episodes too. Joy Reid is a peach.


The lab messing with SAR viruses and doing gain of function was literally 8 miles from the place morons claimed it came from. At this point you're either suffering from a complete lack of common sense, or you're a typical " I was wrong but refuse to admit it because I'll look really dumb"

Either way, as soon as Fauci and his jackass crew started silencing Dr.'s from Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford and UCLA... everyone with a brain knew what was going on. The time for being cordial about it is over. People who carried on this charade need to be mocked to no end.

vaxedtothemax

Literally every "conspiracy" has been proven true. Right down to schools and businesses. Potato chips at a bar allows the mask to be off. Walking through the restaurant is unsafe, but shouting at your table maskless is fine. At this point, the conspiracy theorists are all the people who bought into the mitigation and nonsense.