Heard on a hotel shuttle there was some issue with new hire getting an A position that delayed the AE release. May have had other implications in the award as well? I don't know..... got recurrent tomorrow, I'll try and get some good rumors.

Ok, having 600 pilots paid extra to leave early had no effect on the required number of active pilots at Delta.

gonna go with no since the most junior captain on this award has been at the company almost 2 years.

Maybe they didn't get the bid due to the issue involved.

I know guys in between yesterdays JR Capt and the 4 month guy (closer in seniority to yesterdays award than the 4 monther) who bid and didn't get it. I doubt it was because of new hire Capt awards.

Guessing it also had something to do with it being a holiday weekend as well.

That is not what you said. You said that it expedited the return of furloughees which would lead someone to believe that we returned before the trigger was hit that was set by the arbitrator, which was a 3 month rolling window that was based on passenger count. Pretty much all it did was allow the people left on property to fly even more greenslips.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you mean the force majeure clause? That had nothing to do with the early retirement program. Anytime you pull 600 pilots off the top of the list an average of 3 years early it helps everyone.

The early retirement was not a quid as the two issues were mutually independent. Not one FM1 furloughee was recalled until Richard Bloch's economic trigger was met. Once the Bloch trigger was met, the company was obligated to recall all furloughees - not just some and, IIRC, there was a provision in his decision that prevented the company from "slow-rolling" the recall.

Seriously! Here is what YOU wrote, not me:

"The quid was the company funding a early retirement program for around 600 pilots that generated lots of movement and expediated bringing back the furloughed pilots."

What I said is that although the 600 early retirements made movement, it didn't expedite bringing back the furloughees even by a day. The furloughees were brought back once the company hit the 3 month trigger in the arbitrator's ruling and that had to do with passenger loads. So saying that it expedited the furloughees return is false.