It's called experience ☺️

But you probably won't be rerouted on those remaining 40% of trip pairings. 😁

True dat.....

Don't answer the phone on your sit around. Acars your screwed.

Yep! As it stands now, you may as well bid for days to work. Pretty much ready reserve once your trip starts. The 5 day I'm on has been a flustercuck.

Lines of time went away with PBS. The next PBS trick will be no bid packs.

You'll just bid preferences like days off, trip length, layover locations, sign-in/-out time...and the gonkulator will pick city-pairs and string them together into the most efficient trips you've ever seen. Not only will you be switching airplanes, you'll be switching captains/FOs too. :eek:

" but 30 years on I get it completely....he told me, 'if you stay in the copilot seat long enough, it wont matter to you what else you can hold, mentally that's what you will permanently become, an FO.....and that's where you will retire.'

total hogwash...30 years ago was a completely different world. Think about it...those guys got hired before they turned 30 (or didn't get hired)..they made a lot more money, flew hundreds of hours per year less, bid lines of time, better trips, better work rules, had stay-at-home wives. I could go on and on. Delta now hires a ton of older military guys...they have a pension and once senior on Delta equipment, aren't moving.

I can't speak for all senior F/O's but those I know stay because of some pretty darn good reasons like a having sick family member, working wife, second jobs, military commitments etc...I've heard of a few that inherited money, receiving military pension... so don't need the money etc.

The older senior guys will probably never bid off...but the younger senior F/O's will probably bid off when they can hold left seat and control their schedules.

Any talk of a pilot developing a permanent F/O mentality sounds exactly like something some dinosaur 30 years ago would have said...but much like lots of things said back then...total hogwash.

PBS would have to be exponentially more powerful than what it is, especially with our schizophrenic fleet and network. Not happening any time soon.

Perhaps, but it wouldn't take much for PBS to be able to link up multiple rotations into a single one if it could legally connect the front and back ends. I assume the rules auditor doesn't yet allow that, but maybe it does?

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