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Peoloto 05-21-2017 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rowdy320 (Post 2366930)
I'm in Dtw 777b and 15ish off the bottom. That's the beauty of this job. To each his own. I'm expecting to move backwards on this bid so I pulled the trigger to go to the left seat. I have better seniority on the 73 at 20 years than on the 777. Most of the guys I talk to are not going to leave voluntarily. More $$$ less days. I love the 777. IMO, it is the the queen of the fleet. Bummed I'm leaving but it's time. Even though I'll be working more days, the 7+ day trips are getting old. I guess we will see on Tuesday where I land!

Great airplane but not until after December.

forgot to bid 05-21-2017 06:22 PM

What's the cheat on icrew to see if you were awarded something in the ae?

tunes 05-21-2017 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2367136)
What's the cheat on icrew to see if you were awarded something in the ae?



It only works like 30 min before ae is officially out. But first part of ae preferences shows next category and seat lock expiration


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Speed Select 05-21-2017 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2367125)
I think its a paradigm shift (pardon the cliche). For well over a decade there was absolutely no question that guys being awarded a Captain seat had the minimum required hours. No need to check anything.

Delta was burned, maybe surprised would be a better word when the A Bid results came out a while back and guys who were awarded A positions did not meet the minimums. From what I heard those guys were pay protected.

So guys without sufficient hours were pay protected as captains while riding the right seat? Is this in the contract?

Cogf16 05-21-2017 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman (Post 2367118)
If this is true, then what's the point of us bidding? Why not just have the company make phone calls to all the people they want to upgrade?

Wow, Really? See black helicopters much😁😁😁 These are pretty unprecedented times with 5 month guys getting Capt. positions. They're going to honor the PWA, but there might be some unintended consequences that both sides may be able to mitigate.

Cogf16 05-21-2017 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Scott (Post 2366105)
I believe he is the reason the policy exists.

I heard first hand that guy was going to get a 150 hr. IOE

Express pilot 05-21-2017 08:08 PM

https://youtu.be/yrrmNpGYH28

qball 05-21-2017 09:08 PM

Wouldn't you think the company knows how many hours (121 or otherwise) one of their employees have? Someone sure knew it when they were hired. I also find it hard to beilieve that if this is an issue, would it not have been highlighted on the bid?

badflaps 05-21-2017 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 2367168)
I heard first hand that guy was going to get a 150 hr. IOE

When TWA had guys coming off the engineers seat to DC-9 Capt. 100 hours was the norm.

astroglider 05-22-2017 03:37 AM

It amazes me that Delta is surprised by the last few AE's. IF Delta is concerned about the pilots who are being awarded the left seat they only have themselves to blame. Their Optimizer schedule builder has made the NB categories so awful nobody wants to bid them. This push they have for less system credit will cost them money in the end.

Hey Delta make better rotations and you'll get more senior guys bidding the left seat!!!

Who wants to be stuck in a category that only flies long 4-day trips... 4 to 5 legs per day every day...short layovers on a crappy aircraft? No thanks.


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