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09-27-2017, 06:02 PM
#783
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
This is a long ways from over... this is just the opening salvo.
There are many moving pieces.
There are many moving pieces.
09-27-2017, 06:22 PM
#784
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I'm nowhere near an expert, but what's to stop some third party outside the US from purchasing the planes then leasing them to Delta? Are leases still subject to the tariff as well?
09-27-2017, 07:30 PM
#785
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Originally Posted by BATOL
Delta bought an oil refinery. What's to say they couldn't buy a plane maker?
What is even better, Delta would not even need to buy and move Bombardier. They would just need to get a licensed production agreement and have a FAL built in the US to Handle the US market.
09-27-2017, 07:31 PM
#786
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Is Puddy on a watch? Take his shoe laces.
Originally Posted by tennisguru
I'm nowhere near an expert, but what's to stop some third party outside the US from purchasing the planes then leasing them to Delta? Are leases still subject to the tariff as well?
I've read elsewhere in the last couple of days that all three major Chinese carriers are looking hard at the C series. Now, if they could be convinced to buy out the Canadian govt stakes as part of a purchase order... maybe the subsidy problem goes away (unless BA can make the case that Chinese carriers are also subsidized). It would be very Sun Tzuesque for the Chinese to take this wedge eagerly manufactured by BA and drive it right where the sun don't shine between Canada and the U.S.
09-27-2017, 07:37 PM
#787
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I don't doubt bombardier might have done enough to warrant a tariff, they and embraer have been at it for years over it. But who of the four hasn't probably done something with their government?
But in the end Boeing is just a super dirty company. Hope this burns the bridge with delta and cost them with the UK and Canada.
But in the end Boeing is just a super dirty company. Hope this burns the bridge with delta and cost them with the UK and Canada.
09-27-2017, 08:09 PM
#788
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I used to be a big Boeing fan. That faded fast once I got a peak behind the curtain with the 121 gig. I dislike the company more every day now to the point that I frequently find myself thinking "effe boeing" when I open up my Jepps.
All personal disdain aside though, some of the DAL/Boeing bickering can be attributed to Richard Anderson kicking the hornet's nest a couple times before he departed the pattern.
All personal disdain aside though, some of the DAL/Boeing bickering can be attributed to Richard Anderson kicking the hornet's nest a couple times before he departed the pattern.
09-27-2017, 08:31 PM
#789
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Don't forget that Boeing gave Delta their "preferred customer discount" on the 767-400, while they offered Northwest 10s of millions of dollars less for each copy to try to sway them away from the much more capable A330.
To say Boeing had already gotten a bit too big for their britches back then might have been true.... today? We are 20 years beyond the double downs on the 737 and riding their big corporate wave.
Given that flying the 737 for a year was enough for me to go "screw this, I'm trying the airbus," I'm completely fine with us nuking the rest of the 739 order as well in lieu of 32(X)NEOs.
To say Boeing had already gotten a bit too big for their britches back then might have been true.... today? We are 20 years beyond the double downs on the 737 and riding their big corporate wave.
Given that flying the 737 for a year was enough for me to go "screw this, I'm trying the airbus," I'm completely fine with us nuking the rest of the 739 order as well in lieu of 32(X)NEOs.
09-27-2017, 10:30 PM
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[QUOTE=80ktsClamp;2437292]Don't forget that Boeing gave Delta their "preferred customer discount" on the 767-400, while they offered Northwest 10s of millions of dollars less for each copy to try to sway them away from the much more capable A330[QUOTE]
Clamp - you don't think the 767-400 is a good airplane vs the A330? Why, how dare you! Boeing sold 41 of them and AB sold 1900+ A330's, not counting the +1000 A330NEO's that will be sold! LOL!
Clamp - you don't think the 767-400 is a good airplane vs the A330? Why, how dare you! Boeing sold 41 of them and AB sold 1900+ A330's, not counting the +1000 A330NEO's that will be sold! LOL!
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