Carry over trips
11-22-2017 | 05:48 AM
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Carry over trips
Before I go do something crazy like pick up a trip that leaves Dec 31 and carries 5 days into January, can someone enlighten me as to how that may effect my January schedule?
I tried finding other threads on it and checking the scheduling hand book, but didn't find much. How does that credit effect the building of my January schedule? I'll also probably have CQ and am considering bidding reserve. Problem is I don't want to mess that stuff up by picking up a carry over trip if it will have a negative impact.
I tried finding other threads on it and checking the scheduling hand book, but didn't find much. How does that credit effect the building of my January schedule? I'll also probably have CQ and am considering bidding reserve. Problem is I don't want to mess that stuff up by picking up a carry over trip if it will have a negative impact.
11-22-2017 | 06:07 AM
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Kind of depends on your strategy and seniority level.
Some senior guys avoid them because scheduling can manipulate your Dec 31-Jan4 trip up till Dec 4th (ish). So you’re easy last day of SAV-ATL could turn into a triple turn and you have no recourse. They can even add a day to the trip. They don’t do that as much anymore with the new contract cause their is a premium pay penalty associated with adding a day.
I will bid easy carry out trips because it’s an artificial way to boost my seniority/get a better trip.
Also, in your example, as a line holder my 4 days of carry out could be worth 24-25 hours. Making it easier to build my schedule to the 65-75 hour mark.
I’ll let others chime in on reserve
Some senior guys avoid them because scheduling can manipulate your Dec 31-Jan4 trip up till Dec 4th (ish). So you’re easy last day of SAV-ATL could turn into a triple turn and you have no recourse. They can even add a day to the trip. They don’t do that as much anymore with the new contract cause their is a premium pay penalty associated with adding a day.
I will bid easy carry out trips because it’s an artificial way to boost my seniority/get a better trip.
Also, in your example, as a line holder my 4 days of carry out could be worth 24-25 hours. Making it easier to build my schedule to the 65-75 hour mark.
I’ll let others chime in on reserve
11-22-2017 | 06:38 AM
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Don't do it if bidding reserve in Jan. You'll basically be working for free. All you will get is credit toward your Jan reserve guarantee. Those days will be "on call" days (that you are now working) for Jan.
11-22-2017 | 07:07 AM
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That makes sense. I guess another way of looking at it is rather than actually being on call and sitting waiting for the phone to ring, Id at least have some predictability there. Wouldn't that then also reduce my reserve days by 5 or so which would ultimately put me on about roughly 12 on call days for the remainder of the month?
11-22-2017 | 09:19 AM
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That makes sense. I guess another way of looking at it is rather than actually being on call and sitting waiting for the phone to ring, Id at least have some predictability there. Wouldn't that then also reduce my reserve days by 5 or so which would ultimately put me on about roughly 12 on call days for the remainder of the month?
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11-22-2017 | 09:57 AM
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Your logic makes more sense. Sounds like keeping a line with the carry over could be ok. That will just reduce what it builds me up to ALV, then? Essentially it will just have to build me 50ish hours worth of flying for January then? Also, how would CQ factor into that?
11-22-2017 | 10:02 AM
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Your logic makes more sense. Sounds like keeping a line with the carry over could be ok. That will just reduce what it builds me up to ALV, then? Essentially it will just have to build me 50ish hours worth of flying for January then? Also, how would CQ factor into that?
CQ counts 8 hours towards credit window.
Recommend the pbs excel sheet. Go to Deltanet, CR and Scheduling, PBS resources.
You can then plug in your carryin credit, CQ, etc.. it will tell yome how much credit PBS would have to build as lineholder or how many reserve days you owe.
11-22-2017 | 10:49 AM
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Apparently it doesn't matter anyways. The P/U returned this
" VLTN BL GT 100/672(Swap Board)"
I don't know what that means. It's one day for December, I have a max p/u of 14+ hrs, I'm off 6 days prior to that so its not a rest thing. Not sure what's up with this.
Anyone?
" VLTN BL GT 100/672(Swap Board)"
I don't know what that means. It's one day for December, I have a max p/u of 14+ hrs, I'm off 6 days prior to that so its not a rest thing. Not sure what's up with this.
Anyone?
11-22-2017 | 10:56 AM
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Apparently it doesn't matter anyways. The P/U returned this
" VLTN BL GT 100/672(Swap Board)"
I don't know what that means. It's one day for December, I have a max p/u of 14+ hrs, I'm off 6 days prior to that so its not a rest thing. Not sure what's up with this.
Anyone?
" VLTN BL GT 100/672(Swap Board)"
I don't know what that means. It's one day for December, I have a max p/u of 14+ hrs, I'm off 6 days prior to that so its not a rest thing. Not sure what's up with this.
Anyone?
100/672 is the FAR 100 hour block limit in the previous 672 hours, or 28 days. It’s rolling like the 1000/365 limit
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