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Old 12-16-2017 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Sure they can. They can catch you on your last day or two on reserve and inverse assign you into your off days. They nailed guys that way left and right during the no overtime campaign. Getting you in the jetway is not hard also. They send a message to the gate agent working the flight. 727 guys once escaped using the airstairs. Hard to do these days.
What no overtime campaign?
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Old 12-17-2017 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
The idea that a limit to manipulating a schedule is a good thing and necessary is completely wrong. WS are limited not allowing additional time. If a swap is the only way to get the schedule you want/need those limited instances are acceptable to me. I don't think many pilots are exceeding the limit by this technique with the intent to work more.

My opinion is there is no need for a fix. I think learning to use your seniority effectively is an art. Changing the rules to limit flexibility is not the way to go. I would say trip breaking is the answer, scheduling does it all the time, why shouldn't pilots be allowed?
I have flown with a number of Caprains that use both the pot and the technique of swapping a small (1 or 2 day) for a larger (4 or 5 day) trying to get to 100 hours every month. Right or wrong is another discussion, but to say people are ‘manipulating’ the system in order to get above ALV+15 is naive.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
I have flown with a number of Caprains that use both the pot and the technique of swapping a small (1 or 2 day) for a larger (4 or 5 day) trying to get to 100 hours every month. Right or wrong is another discussion, but to say people are ‘manipulating’ the system in order to get above ALV+15 is naive.
Out of 14500, how many do you think do this and is that significant? I don't think "many" and they are a rarity. How does this affect the others? They swap with the pot so something goes back into the pot but less time. If they weren't allowed to do that the larger trip would be assigned to someone else. I would like to know how many hours over are traded per year but there's no data. It's a small insignificant amount IMO.
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Old 12-18-2017 | 03:26 AM
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Does a swap with the pot allow you to go over max pick up?
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Old 12-18-2017 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mesaba13
Does a swap with the pot allow you to go over max pick up?
Sadly yes.
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