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Old 12-16-2017, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
What’s the thought about non-uniformed jumpseaters who are riding in the cabin being allowed to drink? I only ask because ALPA says no booze even if you are in a first class seat while “jumpseating” in street clothes because you are an additional crew-member. I would think, practically speaking, a DH crew-member is as much (or more) of a crew-member as a jumpseater occupying a cabin seat. I say more because 1) DHs are being compensated 2) a DH is considered duty by the FAA 3) deadheaders are familiar with their airline’s procedures and are potentially better equipped than an offline jumpseater to “assist.” I don’t see ALPA fighting this fight. Both ALPA airlines I’ve worked for prohibit alcohol on deadheads.

Personally, I think if you’re in a cabin seat, regardless of how you got there (rev, nonrev, jumpseat flow back, positive space, deadhead), then you are a passenger, and you aren’t performing any crew duties, and booze should be allowed, just like it is for passengers in the exit row who aren’t refraining from alcohol in the event they have to assist. Hopefully you guys get this new policy reversed. If we “self” out of a DH (deviate is I think what you guys call it) and non-rev instead, nothing is stopping us from drinking. Is that a possible bypass of this rule for you guys?
Sure, if you want to give up a positive space seat.
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This is a pinprick compared to the percentage of cost reduction they hoped for but never achieved with 7.5.
A billion dollar pin prick. We are a much leaner organization now. There will be more “pain.”
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I have only heard a rumor of the incidents that led to this but I doubt it's going to change if the rumors are remotely true.
The only incident I've heard of was pretty bad.
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The only incident I've heard of was pretty bad.


Did it make any news that can be linked here?
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:07 AM
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Drinks on the house will NOT be the last thing cut. Just scratching the surface. Sound familiar, 7.5?
What was "7.5"? Some other cost cutting program? Just curious.
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:19 AM
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What was "7.5"? Some other cost cutting program? Just curious.
Our cost per seat mile in the nineties was something around 11 to 12 cents per mile. Our leadership announced a plan to get the cost down to 7.5 cents per mile or slightly above where SWA was at the time. The only thing the plan lacked was any detail on how to do that. They did slash personnel costs but the product became so bad the revenue dropped as fast as costs.
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...7.5 cents per mile...
Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't heard of it before.
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Delta family has grown dysfunctional

Ron Allen Era
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What was "7.5"? Some other cost cutting program? Just curious.
Ron Allen's brain-child that stuck a shiv in what was left of "the Delta family."
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Did it make any news that can be linked here?
Thankfully, no.
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