I don't support TD either unless those that come into a base under TD are at the bottom of the list after the permanently assigned pilots. The union would never go for that.

Im waiting for the VB model that lets me fly the ship sitting at home in my undies. :)

Ahhhhhhh Grasshopper, that's exactly what MOU #16-03 says. "A pilot who has been awarded a TDY slot will, in seniority order among TDY pilots, but below permanent pilots, in such category:...." Read section B of the Temporary Duty portion of the MOU.

Denny

Does that include greenslips and the like? If it doesn't include EVERYTHING, then it is a failure imho.

One of the bullet points under the quote I gave you is it pertains to to Sections 23 E,N,O. 23 E is the PCS sequence which includes the award of just about everything.

Denny

I'll look it up when I am not so lazy. :D

That's usually my attitude too!;)

IMO "Temporary Duty" allows for other bases to poach your bases flying by seemingly looking like it's in base flying because everyone is "based" in base...........at least for the month. What's the difference between another base flying your bases trips and bringing pilots in, on a temporary basis from another base, to fly your trips? I'll answer: NOTHING! Except it will reduce credit and manning along with a reduction in overtime and allow management almost unlimited flexibility. You wanna see even more pilots based in ATL? It's definitely a step closer to having all pilots based there.......

I know Sailingfun, I'm crying wolf here, making dire predictions etc. It really won't affect me much if any other than maybe not getting some overtime, I've only got 5.5 years left, but I do think this is a camels nose under the tent or worse...

Denny

For the most part, all Temporary Duty allows is for guys, who live in a base but cannot hold it on the equipment they are on, to not have to commute on a month to month basis. Before I get jumped on, notice I said "For the most part." There will always be exceptions.

Denny

There are too many unknowns to say "TDY bad" (or good). I'm skeptical on both TDY and VB, but don't want to make dire predictions when so much is speculation. We certainly agree that as a minimum we need to proceed carefully

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TDY is much more expensive than a based pilot. And if they are all coming below you in your base it is making more pairings available for your bidding with more pilots junior to you as well. An alternative is to just build pairings that go through your base instead of originating there. So you still don't get the flying. With TDY and the TDY pilots going to the bottom of the list you'd end up with a better schedule than with flights not being available for your bid at all.

It sounds like your biggest concern would be alleviated simply by restricting the amount of time that a TDY could be conducted, such as a maximum of 3 months.

Having worked somewhere previously that allowed TDY, it's not used how you seem to think.