Changes to retirement funding
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#63
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From: C-130J AC / B717 FO
Your logic is flawed. Tricare is for a relatively healthy and young population. Tricare for life (retiree healthcare) is different and only becomes a supplement to Medicare. Single payer is way different.
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“Tricare Management Activity contracts with several large health insurance corporations to provide claims processing, customer service and other administrative functions to the Tricare program.”
It doesn’t matter who administers it. It matters what they tell the administrator. Tricare and Delta tell United Healthcare two entirely different things.
It doesn’t matter who administers it. It matters what they tell the administrator. Tricare and Delta tell United Healthcare two entirely different things.
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We are in an situation where we will most likely have a divided pilot group with this issue: we have a lot of retirements coming up but we also have probably almost percent of the airline that has decades left that most likely don’t want this
All you can do is write your reps: I did
All you can do is write your reps: I did
#66
You said, " Along with a bump in DC, I believe our focus should be on much improved active and retiree healthcare plans. Those are worth a real struggle and will have a much longer positive impact on the pilot group.
Although not a majority, the pilots with Tricare do not need improved active and retiree healthcare plans from Delta. So for them, it's not a worth a real struggle and will not have a much longer positive impact on the "whole" pilot group. I'm not saying it's not a worthwhile goal, just don't cast the wide net and say it's "worth the real struggle" for everyone.
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You completely missed the point of the post.
You said, " Along with a bump in DC, I believe our focus should be on much improved active and retiree healthcare plans. Those are worth a real struggle and will have a much longer positive impact on the pilot group.
Although not a majority, the pilots with Tricare do not need improved active and retiree healthcare plans from Delta. So for them, it's not a worth a real struggle and will not have a much longer positive impact on the "whole" pilot group. I'm not saying it's not a worthwhile goal, just don't cast the wide net and say it's "worth the real struggle" for everyone.
You said, " Along with a bump in DC, I believe our focus should be on much improved active and retiree healthcare plans. Those are worth a real struggle and will have a much longer positive impact on the pilot group.
Although not a majority, the pilots with Tricare do not need improved active and retiree healthcare plans from Delta. So for them, it's not a worth a real struggle and will not have a much longer positive impact on the "whole" pilot group. I'm not saying it's not a worthwhile goal, just don't cast the wide net and say it's "worth the real struggle" for everyone.
I didn’t miss the point. I stand by what I said. I and many others could say the same about DB restoration. I do not need nor want a DB, therefore, it doesn’t benefit me to spend negotiating capital on it.
If the majority believe it’s worth it, they will vote accordingly. As our ranks become much more civilian than military over the coming years, I believe you’ll be in even a far greater minority.
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You completely missed the point of the post.
You said, " Along with a bump in DC, I believe our focus should be on much improved active and retiree healthcare plans. Those are worth a real struggle and will have a much longer positive impact on the pilot group.
Although not a majority, the pilots with Tricare do not need improved active and retiree healthcare plans from Delta. So for them, it's not a worth a real struggle and will not have a much longer positive impact on the "whole" pilot group. I'm not saying it's not a worthwhile goal, just don't cast the wide net and say it's "worth the real struggle" for everyone.
You said, " Along with a bump in DC, I believe our focus should be on much improved active and retiree healthcare plans. Those are worth a real struggle and will have a much longer positive impact on the pilot group.
Although not a majority, the pilots with Tricare do not need improved active and retiree healthcare plans from Delta. So for them, it's not a worth a real struggle and will not have a much longer positive impact on the "whole" pilot group. I'm not saying it's not a worthwhile goal, just don't cast the wide net and say it's "worth the real struggle" for everyone.
While I get what you are saying as someone on Tricare as a reservist I'm all for better active healthcare....Would provide much less incentive for me to stick around the reserves and be able to focus on one job.
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#69
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I recommend everyone speak to a union rep. I did During one of their many visits to crew bases. If you talk to them you will see that they aren’t going in as crazy as we are painting them here. They know it’s unlikely to get another DB plan, but they have to look in to it and what new options are available.
Now, we're supposed to see them for their rational thought process on retirement? Retirement that we've seen decimated at the corporate level but hey? Why not try it again? No thanks.
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#70
Our health plan offerings are a symptom of a national health care problem. A big obstacle is the lack of a national healthcare marketplace. With each state's insurance commission regulating plans within their borders, it limits the competition across state lines. This is by design at the request of many providers to limit competition. Lower the barriers to entry and magically you will see more and better offerings.
Delta can do their part by coughing up a few dollars under the current system and take better care of us during employment and in retirement. One option is increasing the HSA contribution amounts. The flexibility in these accounts provide for both in-service benefits and retire benefits if the funds are not exhausted yearly.
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