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Old 10-02-2009, 06:37 PM
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Q7: Will my period of active duty be considered a break in service with my employer and impact my eligibility to participate in my employer's retirement plan or my vesting or benefit accrual under the plan?
No. USERRA requires that the period of military duty be counted as covered service with the employer for eligibility, vesting, and benefit accrual purposes. Returning service members are treated as if they had been continuously employed regardless of the type of retirement plan the employer has adopted. However, a person who is reemployed is entitled to accrued benefits resulting from employee contributions only to the extent that he or she actually makes the contributions to the plan.

This question has not been important for me in the past, but dealing with Continental Airlines and the residual effects of Frank Lorenzo has made it a factor. Believe it or not, my union representation has told me that CAL is not responsible for making contributions to my B-fund while activated. A major part of the military pilot's class-action lawsuit against CAL is their contributions to our retirement while activated. From the text above, it seems pretty clear that companies have to continue retirement contributions while an employee is activated.

I'd like to know if other airlines contribute to the A/B/C funds while an employee is activated?

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Old 10-02-2009, 06:47 PM
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Fedex yes you get A and B fund. In fact if you were able to upgrade they project a training date and pay you the increased rate. They just started this last 1.5 years or so.
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While SWA doesn't have the A/B/C funds, they do offer a 401k match when we make up our contribution for the year in question upon returning to the company. They do the calculation based on what I would have worked had I been there. I'm not sure how the calculation is actually determined. I had heard that they used your previous 6 months of fulltime employment as a guide in determining how productive you were. SWA also gives a profit sharing contribution for the time you're gone. Again, this contribution is based upon what they think you would have earned.

I received a profit sharing letter a couple months ago that actually spelled it out pretty clearly.

Actual 2008 Eligible Compensation: 50k

2008 USERRA Deemed Compensation: 35k

My profit sharing contribution was based on 85k as opposed to just 50k.


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Old 10-02-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes View Post
Q7: Will my period of active duty be considered a break in service with my employer and impact my eligibility to participate in my employer's retirement plan or my vesting or benefit accrual under the plan?
No. USERRA requires that the period of military duty be counted as covered service with the employer for eligibility, vesting, and benefit accrual purposes. Returning service members are treated as if they had been continuously employed regardless of the type of retirement plan the employer has adopted. However, a person who is reemployed is entitled to accrued benefits resulting from employee contributions only to the extent that he or she actually makes the contributions to the plan.

This question has not been important for me in the past, but dealing with Continental Airlines and the residual effects of Frank Lorenzo has made it a factor. Believe it or not, my union representation has told me that CAL is not responsible for making contributions to my B-fund while activated. A major part of the military pilot's class-action lawsuit against CAL is their contributions to our retirement while activated. From the text above, it seems pretty clear that companies have to continue retirement contributions while an employee is activated.
Your title says retirement from Mil Leave. USERRA requires a company to make retirement contributions to a military member upon the members return to active employment. There is no requirement for the employer to make those contributions while you are performing your reserve duty.

When you return to your employer, you should receive all contributions that would have been paid to you as if you never went on Mil Leave. While you are activated you may also be able to contribute to the Federal Thrift Savings Plan.
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While you are activated you may also be able to contribute to the Federal Thrift Savings Plan.
True Statement... However; In 2009, the contribution limit is 16,500 for the 401k. If you contribute to TSP while activated in 2009 and max it out, you won't be able to offer makeup 401k contributions for calender year 2009 upon returning to the airline in 2010 (My case). This is because the IRS looks at TSP and 401k as the same animal in terms of tax advantages. This is what was briefed to me. I'm not a tax expert by any means, but I would look it up to make sure. When I max out the 2010 401k next year, SWA will continue to deduct money out of my paycheck to contribute to the 2009 limit. I've got 3 times the length of my mil leave or 5 years, whichever is shortest to make up the 2009 contributions.

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