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Han Solo 09-02-2018 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2666850)
Jesus dude, drama queen much? I live in base and would never support negotiation coconuts getting thrown at hotels. Sc above reserve? Ya I guess, but I’d rather see stuff like all deadheads greater than 5 hours=business class. All deadheads less than 5 hours=Econ comfort aisle/window. Crew meals at 5hours, vacation, training, etc etc. oh, and a one click icrew for I’m sick/now I’m not sick.

His post was fine, you need to chill the &@$@ out

Agree: the other space hero guy is a total drama queen, hotels outside layover hotels mean nothing, sc pay above guarantee is fine (cue SF to tell us how great reserve is compared to...), dh improvements great, 1-button sick/not sick a great idea, 5 hour vacation/training long overdue. Gotta jump off the cart at crew meals. Bleh, let the company keep them :)

Buck Rogers 09-02-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2666850)
Jesus dude, drama queen much?

His post was fine, you need to chill the &@$@ out

Well gosh Ollie, thanks for the advice. You too, seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I neither support nor dismiss the item of hotels for short calls. I do have a problem with taking a suggestion, misrepresenting the item in it's totality, and then advocating for or against said recharacterization of said item. Capisce?

If we are going to discuss the merits(or lack thereof) of a proposal, let's at least be intellectually honest and not distort the proposal

I never bid reserve therefore, I don't really give a crap about reserve improvements, but I am willing to pursue said improvements if it helps a majority of pilots.....

I can think of a logical reason to be against almost any improvement if one only views that improvement though their eyes

ex...Increase pay rates across the board?...."Nahh, not for that. I'm going through a divorce and don't want my child support(alimony) to be predicated on a higher W2.

ex...Better health care coverage?...."Nahh, not for that. I got my Tricare(wife's insurance etc)

It just seems like every time someone proposes an " improvement" pilots are quick to shoot it down based on how it personally affects them.....

We would have never gotten rid of B scale if all pilots were so myopic as to say, " Doesn't affect me, I already paid my dues on that one". Sometimes we need to push for improvements regardless of personal gain, and support it because it's the right thing to do

Just my opinion, you are welcome to yours

DELTAFO 09-02-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2666865)
we already get domestic crew meals @ 5 hours. I don't really fly domestic anymore but I'd love to see United's DH and crew meal language. but yes absolutely please on the sick part.

Actually it's 5:30

Baradium 09-02-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2666878)
Actually it's 5:30

*above* 5:30. So a 5:30 flight doesn't get them. Have to have that extra minute.

DELTAFO 09-02-2018 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2666913)
*above* 5:30. So a 5:30 flight doesn't get them. Have to have that extra minute.

True. Excellent point, thanks.

We need United's crew meal language.

deadseal 09-02-2018 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2666913)
*above* 5:30. So a 5:30 flight doesn't get them. Have to have that extra minute.

Being based in LA, the transcons very rarely block above 530. Sometimes coming back west from jfk you get it. It’s just a long time in the cockpit and I’m not a quartermaster type that carries rations for 10 days. Do I really care? Nope.
My bigguns (al bundy) are training & vacation pay, don’t touch my profit sharing, and stop giving away sick rules.
Oh and the 6 day trips that do the double Atlantic crossings that completely destroy your sense of sleep cycle and make you incredibly unsafe by the last day. They should pay a premium for how wrecked you get at the end

Nantonaku 09-02-2018 11:04 AM

It blows my mind that people want to waste negotiating capital on free airline food. I just don’t get it.

OOfff 09-02-2018 12:00 PM

Banked hotel nights would be a complete cluste**** unless we used only a single chain of hotels. Delta isn’t going to sit on tens of thousands of banked hotel nights (accounting liability item) and administer doling them out for the Hilton bora bora when you go on vacation. Commuter hotels, fine, talk about that. It’s a complete waste of time to chase the creation of some unwieldy hotel bureau.

Herkflyr 09-02-2018 12:12 PM


stop giving away sick rules
Do you truly feel any different about your sick leave available to you than you did last contract, or the one prior to that? I don't. I don't call in sick when I'm not sick, and I don't hesitate for a nanosecond to call in sick if I feel a bit under the weather. Nothing in the contract has changed my perspective. I'm not seeing the outrage here.


Oh and the 6 day trips that do the double Atlantic crossings that completely destroy your sense of sleep cycle and make you incredibly unsafe by the last day. They should pay a premium for how wrecked you get at the end.
Plenty of commuters love those trips. I'm guessing the bit above was just a vent, but how would you quantify "how wrecked you feel?" I always felt far more wrecked at the end of a domestic redeye than I ever did an international trip (disclaimer: I rarely flew the 6-days, but did fly the deep SA a lot). However, there are others that think the opposite. To each his/her own and all that.

tennisguru 09-02-2018 12:59 PM

Speaking of sick rules, AA has a sick if-needed provision for reserves that would be a nice benefit to add. Basically if you call in sick for a stretch of reserve days they only dock you a sick day if they actually would have called your number that day.


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