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DoubleTrouble 09-05-2018 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2668685)
We know, and all your FCRs are handled in a satisfactory manner with free dinner for the entire crew and a free night's stay on your next family vacation.



And I'm not surprised you continue to be such a management mouthpiece.

Calling Sailing a management mouthpiece is great example of how not influence others. I don't agree with everything he posts, but he keeps his history correct and adds a bit of reality to the conversation. I'm glad he stays engaged.

Han Solo 09-05-2018 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2668703)
I am not surprised you seem to have constant problems at Delta. When I look back at the first 5 years of my career at Delta I only wish I had all the terrible issues you have. For a guy flying as a Captain after a 2 or 3 years at Delta making 250K plus your life sure does suck here. Have you considered any other options?

I'm flying in a position that's so great that 11,000 pilots in front of me said "no-thanks", what's your point? I've never lied about an anecdote I've brought up here and I'm not special, if it has happened to me it has happened to others. I'm just a random person who called CS and for some reason had to explain myself to the duty pilot. CS doesn't know if I'm the company's #1 problem child or a 5 time chairman's club member. Pilot assist is new and the PSC didn't used to be manned 24/7, I've held 3+ hours trying to call CS. *shrug* I've never complained about what I earn or expressed regret over my decision to work for Delta, but thanks for trying to put words into my mouth.

Planetrain 09-05-2018 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2668855)
I'm flying in a position that's so great that 11,000 pilots in front of me said "no-thanks", what's your point? I've never lied about an anecdote I've brought up here and I'm not special, if it has happened to me it has happened to others. I'm just a random person who called CS and for some reason had to explain myself to the duty pilot. CS doesn't know if I'm the company's #1 problem child or a 5 time chairman's club member. Pilot assist is new and the PSC didn't used to be manned 24/7, I've held 3+ hours trying to call CS. *shrug* I've never complained about what I earn or expressed regret over my decision to work for Delta, but thanks for trying to put words into my mouth.

Hey NOOB, anyone who has been here awhile knows you can only win chairman's club just once! :D

My own snarkiness aside, I think touchtone 1- Sick, 2-Well is completely achievable at low cost this contract cycle. Let your reps know. As RR alluded to, I've heard an undercurrent that it could have happened last cycle.

Gunfighter 09-05-2018 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2668828)
We shouldn’t spend negotiating capital on people too scared to call in sick if they have to talk to a real human to do so. Time to put on your big boy/girl pants and use a phone.

Can we spend negotiating capital on the option to call in sick for them? I've flown with a few pilots who should have called in, but didn't.:confused:

SkiBum95 09-05-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2668932)
Can we spend negotiating capital on the option to call in sick for them? I've flown with a few pilots who should have called in, but didn't.:confused:



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Denny Crane 09-05-2018 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2668539)
This is wrong. Only looks at previous 12 months. Current month won’t count until next month when a month drops off.

So you are saying if I call in sick for 25 hours in the beginning of the month and that takes me over 100 hrs sick leave and then call in well........then I subsequently call in sick for a 50 hour trip later in the month, I don't have to verify that 50 hr trip....

Denny

Denny Crane 09-05-2018 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 2668482)
So when you start October and the 24 hours have dropped off the look back and as a result you no longer have a pop up to acknowledge with your DBMS password for the October bid period and your verification status for the October bid period is shown as NONE, if you call in sick for the first trip in your example your verification status for the October bid period is going to change in the middle of the bid period to QHCP and require you to verify the subsequent sick call in the October bid period ? The amount used in the 12 previous completed bid periods haven’t changed have they?

I may be completely wrong here, but I’m having a difficult time reconciling the examples provided here with the language itself and NN 17-13. I also recall a conversation during TA2 with one of the negotiators that left me with the impression that a verification status only changes bid period to bid period because the lookback that triggers it uses only completed bid periods. That’s why the second sick call in your example wouldn’t have a different verification requirement from the first one. That first sick call in October that takes your up to the minute iCrew display over 100 hours is not a part of a completed bid period. It’s gonna get you for November unless you have more dropping off the lookback than are coming into it, but your verification status for the current bid period should be the same all bid period long.

Well, maybe I'm wrong. What we are talking about is part of one month. I just cannot reconcile the 100 hour look back. You are saying it is based on month to month and I think its day to day. I get what you are saying but I cannot reconcile it with my example.

Denny

tunes 09-05-2018 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2668975)
So you are saying if I call in sick for 25 hours in the beginning of the month and that takes me over 100 hrs sick leave and then call in well........then I subsequently call in sick for a 50 hour trip later in the month, I don't have to verify that 50 hr trip....

Denny

that is correct...the look back goes by bid periods.

JamesBond 09-06-2018 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2665409)
Easy fix

20% DC

Invest your DC Excess Cash as you see fit.

I would like to see a way to tax shelter that money.

LeineLodge 09-06-2018 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2669327)
I would like to see a way to tax shelter that money.

For you guys approaching retirement, the idea of deferring compensation 1-5 years (mentioned in the survey) might have some merit.

If you’re suggesting we cap Delta’s 16% at the 415c limit and then apply DPSP CASH towards some other plan (ie pension or annuity), I’m not in favor. That takes money that would be in your name and converts it into a promise that is no longer under your control. It would also effectively remove the “mega Backdoor Roth” strategy as a viable option.


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