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80ktsClamp 09-05-2018 07:26 AM

I had similar to tunes a few years back... I called in sick before a short call not knowing they had put a trip on during my short call. That triggered a follow up call from the CPO a couple days later.

That was my first sick call in more than a year, fwiw.

RonRicco 09-05-2018 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2668581)
No, I don’t feel there is a chance. The company will feel this will cause a increase in sick calls.

Actually, there is a chance. It was discussed in the last negotiations. A segment of the MEC was opposed to it due to the fact that there would be a drop down box where you would have to click “cold, flu, other etc” indicating the reason for the sick call.

sailingfun 09-05-2018 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 2668663)
Actually, there is a chance. It was discussed in the last negotiations. A segment of the MEC was opposed to it due to the fact that there would be a drop down box where you would have to click “cold, flu, other etc” indicating the reason for the sick call.

I meant not a chance of the company doing it outside of the negotiating process.

Han Solo 09-05-2018 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2668584)
Been here 32 years. Never had a sick call questioned or been transferred to the duty pilot.

We know, and all your FCRs are handled in a satisfactory manner with free dinner for the entire crew and a free night's stay on your next family vacation.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2668584)
I am surprised you did not put a full report on here.

And I'm not surprised you continue to be such a management mouthpiece.

GogglesPisano 09-05-2018 08:28 AM

Do schedulers know if a pilot is on probation?

If so we need to put the kabash on that ASAP.

sailingfun 09-05-2018 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2668685)
We know, and all your FCRs are handled in a satisfactory manner with free dinner for the entire crew and a free night's stay on your next family vacation.



And I'm not surprised you continue to be such a management mouthpiece.

I am not surprised you seem to have constant problems at Delta. When I look back at the first 5 years of my career at Delta I only wish I had all the terrible issues you have. For a guy flying as a Captain after a 2 or 3 years at Delta making 250K plus your life sure does suck here. Have you considered any other options?

Buck Rogers 09-05-2018 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2668703)
I am not surprised you seem to have constant problems at Delta. When I look back at the first 5 years of my career at Delta I only wish I had all the terrible issues you have. For a guy flying as a Captain after a 2 or 3 years at Delta making 250K plus your life sure does suck here. Have you considered any other options?

"Say it ain't so". Han has that attitude after a whopping 3 years at Ma Delta?
Puts things in context!!!!

Oh wait, I forgot, what diff does it make how long somebody has been here....their opinion is valuable ....... ...Damn it!!!!!

Riiight 😏. Read it here on the forum, so it must be gospel

If true re: Han's circumstances, thanks for the bigger picture....hey "you hear about the guy that won a 10 million dollar lottery? ...he was ****ed....****ed because the week before it was 20 million and he got screwed"

LeineLodge 09-05-2018 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 2668743)
"Say it ain't so". Han has that attitude after a whopping 3 years at Ma Delta?
Puts things in context!!!!

Oh wait, I forgot, what diff does it make how long somebody has been here....their opinion is valuable ....... ...Damn it!!!!!

Riiight 😏. Read it here on the forum, so it must be gospel

If true re: Han's circumstances, thanks for the bigger picture....hey "you hear about the guy that won a 10 million dollar lottery? ...he was ****ed....****ed because the week before it was 20 million and he got screwed"

I don’t begrudge any of the new guys for getting quick upgrades. We’ll see more of it as retirements accelerate.

I can’t keep straight who posted what, but we really need to take a step back sometimes and realize what we have. When several pages are devoted to wishing for 1-click sick calls, life is pretty good.

Somebody above put it well. Make your best attempt on hold for a few minutes, then send a msg via the app asking for them to mark you sick, and to call you to verify it was received.

Call in sick when you’re sick. Don’t when you’re not. We still get 240/270 hours per year of pay, reloadable every June.

I get the irritation with the Dr. note - I’m bordering on it myself this year and it’s just that: an irritation. My 240 hours of sick = $46k-ish as an ER B. For that, I will go to the urgent care once (or twice) if necessary.

I’m not interested in sacrificing other items like $, QOL (time off!), scope (JV language anyone, hello MEC?!) and retirement to get rid of this relatively minor irritation.

DoubleTrouble 09-05-2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2668577)
Except that's not how it works. You forgot the part where you can be on hold for 5 minutes under normal circumstances to 3+ hours during an IROP. I've also been transferred to speak to the duty pilot to explain why I can't fly my rotation. This from a pilot who has never used more than 40 hours in a year. The company pressures pilots to fly sick, it needs to end.

Notification/Verification of Sickness
1.
2.
A pilot will notify Crew Scheduling upon becoming aware:
a. that, due to sickness, he will be unable to perform duty or be available on an on-call
day,
b. of a period of known sick leave and known accident leave so that Crew Scheduling
may post it as a known absence, and
c. that he is well.
Note: A pilot is not required to state the nature of his sickness to Crew Scheduling.

Note the above note. This was added (if I recall) in C2K. The intent was that a pilot would just state to scheduling that he/she was sick. If you are transferred to the duty pilot you should only repeat that you are sick, ask him/her where his medical degree is from, confirm they get that you are sick and it WOULD BE VIOLATION of the FAR's to report to work under such conditions and call ALPA ASAP.

Having said all that, this is the first time I have ever heard of a pilot being transferred to the duty pilot (30 plus years).

OOfff 09-05-2018 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2668421)
How about let's fix that part of the contract? There will always be the weaker willed.

We shouldn’t spend negotiating capital on people too scared to call in sick if they have to talk to a real human to do so. Time to put on your big boy/girl pants and use a phone.


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