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Originally Posted by PassportPlump
(Post 2667197)
It’s quite simple actually.
100 hours without verification in the previous 12 months. The current look back is posted to the minute on icrew. If you have used 99:59 hours and call out sick for a 32 hour 5-day trip, you still don’t have to verify even though you’re at 131:59. If following that sick call the next week you decide to call out sick you need to verify. I don’t believe this look back “to the minute” and “having to verify next week” part is accurate when it comes to verification. Your verification requirement is determined on a bid period basis and the look back is for the 12 previous bid periods. If you entered a bid period with 99:59 for a look back, you would have no verification requirement for the entirety of that bid period, even if you called in sick multiple times. If you begin a bid period with a look back of 100:00 to 159:59 then you are QHCP and if you begin a bid period with a look back of 160:00 or greater you will require a Doctor’s note. If you use less than 50:00 in two consecutive sick leave years (June 1 - May 31) then you have no verification requirement for the entire new sick leave year no matter how much you use. |
How much sick time does the average pilot use?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2667685)
I suspect the company thinks sick calls would go up.
Does the union track sick leave? I wonder if DALPA could ping UAL MEC for their sick leave data. Might be able to get some info on if sick leave increased/decreased when they instituted their current way to call in sick (doesn't involve talking to anyone). |
Originally Posted by RonRicco
(Post 2667587)
Exactly. I wish we didn’t have to verify, but it if I am truly sick enough that I shouldn’t be at work (after already being out for more than a month of flying in the past 12 months) am I really going to fly/drive to work, get in the employee bus and all the other crap involved with a 4 day trip instead of going to my doc or “doc in the box?”
I’ll take option B. Denny |
Originally Posted by Schwanker
(Post 2667592)
Agree with the we are all better off with improvements we all benefit from. The medical/HSA doesn’t do this for the many on our list with tricare or for those who utilize spouse insurance. Can agree on increasing DC. Or just more $$ we all can spend instead of dividing us via special interests. QOL items, vacation, training pay are areas for improvement nearly everyone can get onboard for. And so is money. Each pilot can prioritize his/her money however they want to spend, save or invest.
Denny |
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 2667713)
I don’t believe this look back “to the minute” and “having to verify next week” part is accurate when it comes to verification. Your verification requirement is determined on a bid period basis and the look back is for the 12 previous bid periods. If you entered a bid period with 99:59 for a look back, you would have no verification requirement for the entirety of that bid period, even if you called in sick multiple times. If you begin a bid period with a look back of 100:00 to 159:59 then you are QHCP and if you begin a bid period with a look back of 160:00 or greater you will require a Doctor’s note. If you use less than 50:00 in two consecutive sick leave years (June 1 - May 31) then you have no verification requirement for the entire new sick leave year no matter how much you use.
Denny |
Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2667730)
How much sick time does the average pilot use?
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 2667817)
Well, since small jet scope doesn’t affect me, I don’t think we should do anything about it, maybe give some more away. I never sit reserve so improvements to it don’t affect all pilots so no can do... Can you not see where you’re attitude is just plain wrong!?!
Denny BTW, I can't remember the last I sat reserve. Definitely prebankruptcy. . I'd love to improve reserve rules as it benefits everyone. More senior guys bidding reserve is better for less senior line holders as well. I want to prioritize our capital in areas which help all. We all get a voice. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 2667818)
I believe you are wrong. If you enter a bid period, say this month, having used 99.59 hours you do not have to verify your next sick call. You call in sick for a 21 hour trip 3-6 sep and call in we’ll on the 7th. You are now over the 100 hr threshold. If you call in sick 21-24 sep,you will have to verify that trip by a QHCP to get paid for that trip. That’s my understanding. And yes they do keep track to the minute.
Denny Denny, you are correct that it is displayed up to the minute. Based on reading NN 17-13, my impression is that your verification status is set for an entire bid period based on your usage for the 12 previous bid periods. Your example with a second sick call on 21-24 sep would not require verification. Assuming there aren’t enough hours to fall out of your 12 bid period look back, you would be on the hook for verification in October though. Take a look at that notepad and let me know what you think. Admittedly, I have never had to verify as I have fallen under the less than 50 exclusion since this was implemented. I’m sure at some point it will snag me though and I want to make sure my understanding is accurate. |
I just read the pertinent section of the PWA. There is no way to pre-emptively verify, that is: Verify for a sick call that is your first/second of the year or if your usage is on the low side.
We did away with this last contract, correct? |
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