You are correct sir...

 

Correct.....

 

Actually yes they are...i’ve Flown with plenty of captains and other FOs that do exactly that.

 

Ok, well then I read it wrong. but it sure sounded like you don't want improvements to the HSA because it doesn't help everyone. My point was that there are going to be improvements that help some more than others. That is gonna happen.

You look at my example as a threat. It is not a threat. It was an example just like the reserve comment. If I get the chance to evaluate another contract for a vote, you can bet I will look at the WHOLE TA and not just one particular part.

You want to prioritize our capital in areas to help all. I want that.......and more.

Denny

 

Looks like the only thing we really disagree on is, I think you will have to verify that second sick call. you are already over 100 hrs when you call in sick. Even if it is in the same month and here is why. Section 14 F.2

Subject to Section 14 F. 6., a pilot who has used more than 100 but not more than 160 hours of sick leave in the 12 completed bid periods preceding the start of a sick occurrence, other than sick leave that has been verified under Section 14 F. 4., will be required to verify such occurrence within 21 days of its start by providing to his Chief Pilot or the Pilot Support Center either a QHCP certificate or a doctor’s certificate.

The above makes no mention of month. It does make mention of bid periods but that is in a look back capacity.

Denny

 

I agree that we are on the same page except for the one part. I also think your quote of the language supports my case. The key word in the language is completed. A current bid period is never a part of the calculation under the language. I contend that if the 12 previous completed bid periods show 99:59 on day one of the month, they will still show 99:59 on the last day of the month even if you called in sick, because they are completed bid periods. What happens in the current bid period does not become part of the look back to trigger verification until the point that the current bid period becomes a completed bid period, ie you start the next bid period. I acknowledge that the iCrew display shows up to date usage, but the look back that triggers verification uses only the 12 previous completed bid periods.

Maybe someone on here has actually been in this situation and can clarify. Has anyone started a bid period with no verification requirement and had to verify something in that current bid period outside of a good faith basis?

 

Sad! Did you tell them to get some intestinal fortitude and stop coming to work and making others sick?

 

If the company is so bent on verification, not allowing early verification is something that has to die hard in the next contract.

 

How about let's fix that part of the contract? There will always be the weaker willed.

 

The 12 month look back is used to determine whether you need to verify in the current bid month. Example: I went over 100 hours March 2018. I am required to verify for any sick call with a QHCP. Every month since then, on the the first day of the bid period, I have to type in my DBMS password to acknowledge I must verify by QHCP if I call in sick.

This month 24hrs will drop off and I will be under 100 hrs and go off QHCP. If, in October I call in sick for a 25 hour trip 3-7 October (taking me back over 100 hrs) then call in well for a week then sick out over an 8 day 50 hour trip later in Oct., I will have to verify that 50 hour trip to get paid for it.

Your current month is still part of the 100 hours.

Denny