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Old 09-04-2018 | 04:46 PM
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Can a junior guy get a trip before me on a straight WS before my Swap? There is plenty of coverage on the drop portion of my swap. Or should I drop the trip and WS the one I want? Need an answer before 2200.

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Old 09-04-2018 | 05:00 PM
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Can a junior guy get a trip before me on a straight WS before my Swap? There is plenty of coverage on the drop portion of my swap. Or should I drop the trip and WS the one I want? Need an answer before 2200.

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23.E.2

Requests for the following schedule alterations will be processed in the following order:
2 a. MLOA (see Section 13 D.),
3 b. IVD (See Section 23 I.),
4 c. APD (see Section 23 I.),
5 d. PD and X-day moves (see Section 23 I. and Section 12 M. 8.),
6 e. recovery slips (see Section 23 J.),
7 f. white slip (see Section 23 P.), and
8 g. swap with the pot (see Section 23 H.)

So a junior guy could pick it up on a WS if you straight swap and don’t PD and then WS it.
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Old 09-04-2018 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Can a junior guy get a trip before me on a straight WS before my Swap? There is plenty of coverage on the drop portion of my swap. Or should I drop the trip and WS the one I want? Need an answer before 2200.

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Step one: read your Contract
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Old 09-04-2018 | 05:08 PM
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Step one: read your Contract
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Thanks for the advice
No problem. I figured you asked a question without any effort into looking it up so I'd answer without putting any effort in either.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Step one: read your Contract
Originally Posted by CBreezy
No problem. I figured you asked a question without any effort into looking it up so I'd answer without putting any effort in either.
You should follow the advice of my mother (and probably yours too.) And I quote: “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.”

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
You should follow the advice of my mother (and probably yours too.) And I quote: “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.”

Denny
Agree 100% Denny!

Used to be you could come to APC and ask a contact question in an effort to cross examine the contact language. 99% of the time within minutes someone would come along with an answer and maybe a "story" of how I learned from that situation. It is sad to see, what I hope is a very small percentage, of folks stifling conversations with snarky and condescending remarks. For those 99% of you out there who still offer free advice without strings attached... thank you for being classy, and humble; the kind of pilot that everyone wants to fly with!
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Originally Posted by BeamMeUp
23.E.2

Requests for the following schedule alterations will be processed in the following order:
2 a. MLOA (see Section 13 D.),
3 b. IVD (See Section 23 I.),
4 c. APD (see Section 23 I.),
5 d. PD and X-day moves (see Section 23 I. and Section 12 M. 8.),
6 e. recovery slips (see Section 23 J.),
7 f. white slip (see Section 23 P.), and
8 g. swap with the pot (see Section 23 H.)

So a junior guy could pick it up on a WS if you straight swap and don’t PD and then WS it.
Love how our PWA pretends like MLOA is a request....
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Old 09-05-2018 | 08:31 AM
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I have the drop/WS versus swap dilemma myself...

I think of it like this;
If I’m not crazy about the trip I have, and am willing to roll the dice and try to drop it and pick up the better trip...I do it. Knowing full well someone senior to me could be doing the same thing. Then he/she will get the trip and I will have nothing on my line.

If I kinda like my current trip, I’ll go with the “safer” swap with pot option. That way I don’t end up with nothing on my line, and I MIGHT get the better trip with the swap
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob
I have the drop/WS versus swap dilemma myself...

I think of it like this;
If I’m not crazy about the trip I have, and am willing to roll the dice and try to drop it and pick up the better trip...I do it. Knowing full well someone senior to me could be doing the same thing. Then he/she will get the trip and I will have nothing on my line.

If I kinda like my current trip, I’ll go with the “safer” swap with pot option. That way I don’t end up with nothing on my line, and I MIGHT get the better trip with the swap
You can also list your current trip as a pickup. If you don’t get the open time trip you stand a reasonable chance to get your old trip back.
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