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11-21-2018 | 06:35 PM

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Gspeed

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

Speed costs money! How fast do you want a deal?

Time costs money too. It can cut both ways.

11-21-2018 | 06:47 PM

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Costing of time and speed can only be compared if distance is known.

And I’m not holding my breath waiting on any of those variables.

11-21-2018 | 07:42 PM

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#meToo clause. Problem solved

11-21-2018 | 09:22 PM

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I guess I’ll be the pessimist. 2021 will be the soonest, but I’d wager 2023 is when a TA will finally be signed. The three legacies (management) have no incentive to get new TA’s signed. Who wouldn’t love to see a strong new TA signed right away. But IMHO, we’re in for some lengthy negotiations.

11-22-2018 | 04:02 AM

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We have nothing to fear because we will never agree to a deal without 100% retro pay.

I believe the deal will come on time or early. Remember it’s raining money.

Our executives are returning approximately $4 Billion annually to our shareholders. 70% of free cash flow.

We have two extremely large employee groups that are a breath away from having the cards for a union vote. Turning their backs on the pilots
in this environment just does not make business sense.

11-22-2018 | 09:39 AM

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Even if this is tongue in cheek, I’ll bite. My point is the company may want to get a deal to take away our pattern bargaining ability this time around. So the real question is how much do they want to pay?

And what, if any, concessions will be a part of that?

Zero scope gives this time around. None.

11-22-2018 | 10:08 AM

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And what, if any, concessions will be a part of that?

Zero scope gives this time around. None.

I agree.

With regard to concessions, why would we discuss any as long as they are buying back Billions in stock?

So they can return $5 Billion annually to our shareholders?

11-22-2018 | 10:11 AM

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And what, if any, concessions will be a part of that?

Zero scope gives this time around. None.

If the company wants to negate our pattern bargaining ability, which is my overall point, it will be in their interest to not push scope gives from us. Is that not clear?

11-22-2018 | 10:45 AM

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I believe our management realizes Delta connection is a dying breed.

Word is they will be down to 3 DCI carriers in less than 18 months.

Slowly bringing all this flying to mainline where it should have been the whole time.

11-22-2018 | 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gzsg

Agreed, and I don't think they will try to get a thousand more 50 seaters allowed. But precisely because DCI is on the decline, they may indeed attempt to get top end relief even as it inevitably shrinks overall anyway.

More 70's or 76's, and/or a MGW limit or something like that may worm its way into an offer to us. If it doesn't happen then great. If it does we shouldn't even entertain it.