Number 3 and it’s a good thing!
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Whenever I talk with other pilots in the cockpit or crew lounge I always make sure to yell the word SCOPE as loudly as I can also...
#32
I agree. We’ve been working on AeroMexico by itself for about 2 years now. Both sides share blame for that. When you add the other JVs and a full Section 6 with work rule and retirement issues, I have no reason to believe there will be any deal achieved for several years, despite gzsg’s optimism.
Then again, maybe not!

Denny
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I go back and forth about how long I think negotiations will take. With AA and UAL in or soon to be in negotiations, I think that will only help us. As someone mentioned earlier, maybe it will drive management to come to a deal first in hopes of avoiding the pattern up bargaining that will take place if AA and UAL come to a deal first.
Then again, maybe not!
Denny
Then again, maybe not!

Denny
Me too clause is a must
Like United did
#35
* please do not confuse the whipser of scope and retirment as "whispers from Top Men" regarding improvements to either.
#36
It's just easier to emphasize SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT with caps lock rather than
SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT
It seemed to start with 2012 negotiations but really came on with 2015.
And yes, I'm shouting SCOPE from the keyboard.
SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT
It seemed to start with 2012 negotiations but really came on with 2015.
And yes, I'm shouting SCOPE from the keyboard.
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I think if it’s a DH followed by flying within a single FDP, the DH seat should be in First Class/Delta One. If I’m not flying afterwards, as long as they keep me out of a middle seat in the back I’m mostly content.
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Agreed. And the fact that we can deadhead from like BOS-LAX in a middle seat in economy when that's longer than some "ocean crossings" is a little strange. It should be based on the length of the flight, not whether the aircraft is flying over solid ground or water.
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